Why is CZ discontinuing everything?

[alp3367]

Those bastards also discontinued the optic ready version of p10s 

 That's not true. Optics ready versions of the s, c, and f are all still current production items

[Crazy8]

Go to the cz website, the p10s optics ready is listed as $0.00. I tried to get one and the LGS said that the optics ready version is not offered by cz. It’s also not on gunbroker unless it’s used.

[alp3367]

Go to the cz website, the p10s optics ready is listed as $0.00. I tried to get one and the LGS said that the optics ready version is not offered by cz. It’s also not on gunbroker unless it’s used.

 There are backorders on all the OR models, but they're still being produced.

[Crazy8]

Go to the cz website, the p10s optics ready is listed as $0.00. I tried to get one and the LGS said that the optics ready version is not offered by cz. It’s also not on gunbroker unless it’s used.

 There are backorders on all the OR models, but they're still being produced.

Really? It’s not on their 2022 product catalogue. According to their lineup, only the F and C are optics ready. I just contacted CZ to be sure since I’ve been looking for one for months.

https://cz-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/9996-CZ-2022-CatalogDIGITAL_4-5-22.pdf

[AZ_GunGuy]

Go to the cz website, the p10s optics ready is listed as $0.00. I tried to get one and the LGS said that the optics ready version is not offered by cz. It’s also not on gunbroker unless it’s used.

I see some new OR P10C's on GB, just not that many. The OR version is in higher demand.  If you want to snag one then check GB everyday and I'm sure a new one will pop up.

[Crazy8]

Go to the cz website, the p10s optics ready is listed as $0.00. I tried to get one and the LGS said that the optics ready version is not offered by cz. It’s also not on gunbroker unless it’s used.

I see some new OR P10C's on GB, just not that many. The OR version is in higher demand.  If you want to snag one then check GB everyday and I'm sure a new one will pop up.

I’m looking for S, not C. I can buy the C at the lgs, but the S is not offered in optics ready, according to the dealer.

[armoredman]

Call CZ directly, and ask for a stocking dealer that has one in stock.

[BBF97]

The CZ97 and the Rami are two prime examples of CZ having very good guns that they didn’t have the vision to carry far enough and ultimate screwed the pooch. Unfortunately, CZ seems to be making a habit of that lately (i.e. with Colt).

If Cz had bothered to chamber the 97 in 10mm, they’d be riding the crest of the 10mm resurgence right now, and if they’d really had some imagination, they’d chamber it in 7.5 FK Brno as well and make it optics ready.

The Rami is probably the sweetest subcompact ever made: supremely ergonomic, reliable, accurate and a nice DA/SA trigger. All it needed was to be updated with a rail and to be made optics ready.


They just don’t have the vision or the balls to follow through these days.

This. All the talk about "not best seller" is the kind of thinking that leads to the lowest common denominator products. And how the world became full of cheap plastic guns. A 97/10mm would be riding the wave now (the 7.5 FK would be a dream and has CZ ties). I also happen to own 3 RAMI and won't sell them - too good for the money and size. If I want really small I pack a P938.

[Europe]

RAMI is not a perfect carry pistol.  it's just to thick. yeah, with a good holster you can carry even a 1911. yep, good luck with that. the trigger pull on RAMI was way to long.  I prefer P10s or Walther PPS. or even single stack glock.

[double-d]

with a good holster you can carry even a 1911. yep, good luck with that.

Funny or should I say FUNNY since I've carried many a 1911 for four+ decades with mediocre holsters.   
But then again, I have never been a "operator" nor gun toting ninja.

[Hammer Time]

...yeah, with a good holster you can carry even a 1911. yep, good luck with that.

My Dan Wesson CCO is no bigger, or heavier, than a PCR. I carry it regularly. 

[crosstimbers]

with a good holster you can carry even a 1911. yep, good luck with that.

Funny or should I say FUNNY since I've carried many a 1911 for four+ decades with mediocre holsters.   
But then again, I have never been a "operator" nor gun toting ninja.

+1

[crash83]

You all should know CZ does this all the time and re releases the models under new sku numbers. Is this you all's first time dealing with CZ?

[crosstimbers]

You all should know CZ does this all the time and re releases the models under new sku numbers. Is this you all's first time dealing with CZ?

No, it's not. For the record the CZ models I care about haven't been re-released under new monikers (CZ rifles)

They are just GONE. Only to be replaced by questionable offerings, while the discontinued models didn't NEED replacing to begin with.

GREED. Make it cheaper, sell it as dear, claim it's an improvement.

The opposite of what drew me to CZ firearms to begin with.

That's all I have to say. I am officially a collector of "older model CZ firearms" at this point. Nothing more.

[MeatAxe]

You all should know CZ does this all the time and re releases the models under new sku numbers. Is this you all's first time dealing with CZ?

No, it's not. For the record the CZ models I care about haven't been re-released under new monikers (CZ rifles)

They are just GONE. Only to be replaced by questionable offerings, while the discontinued models didn't NEED replacing to begin with.

GREED. Make it cheaper, sell it as dear, claim it's an improvement.

The opposite of what drew me to CZ firearms to begin with.

That's all I have to say. I am officially a collector of "older model CZ firearms" at this point. Nothing more.

Yep. That’s it in a nutshell. I just hope we can continue to get parts for our “vintage” CZs and that CZ UB and CZ USA don’t pull a “SIG” on discontinued models. But I’m sure there’ll continue to be a robust aftermarket.