Why is CZ discontinuing everything?

[BBF97]

RAMI is not a perfect carry pistol.  it's just to thick. yeah, with a good holster you can carry even a 1911. yep, good luck with that. the trigger pull on RAMI was way to long.  I prefer P10s or Walther PPS. or even single stack glock.

Not for you. My normal carry except for very hot weather is a P226 or FS92 or 75 BD. The RAMI feels tiny to me. Concealed 1911 is a very real thing. Like all CZ, the RAMIs have been to the shop and have the full Cajun work up. Nothing wrong with my triggers.

[JamesCC]

Those bastards also discontinued the optic ready version of p10s 

Doesn’t make sense when everyone else is moving towards optics ready pistols.

If it doesn’t make sense then something is going on for sure. I wonder if they are shifting to something new

[Bret]

My normal carry except for very hot weather is a P226 or FS92 or 75 BD.

Those are big full size guns.  You are an exception to what most like in a concealed carry pistol which is primarily a small size.  But, if it works for you then that's what matters.  I have three children and drive a two seat convertible.  It's definitely not typical, but it works for me.

[GRU7_Mike]

Well bottom line is there are so many..."I have to have the new model to add to the collection" that anything sells once the market shrinks for the older models of some firearms. How many own a compact..P01 P01 Omega.. Shadow...and so on? CZ, like all the rest keep track on what sells and what they can make the most off of.  They have done a fine job so far of developing and manufacturing various firearms to satisfy many buyers, but not all models are desired by every CZ buyer.  Either the design or the cost determines my and most people purchases.

[MeatAxe]

Well bottom line is there are so many..."I have to have the new model to add to the collection" that anything sells once the market shrinks for the older models of some firearms. How many own a compact..P01 P01 Omega.. Shadow...and so on? CZ, like all the rest keep track on what sells and what they can make the most off of.  They have done a fine job so far of developing and manufacturing various firearms to satisfy many buyers, but not all models are desired by every CZ buyer.  Either the design or the cost determines my and most people purchases.

CZ has been doing a bleep job with the Bren 2, especially the x39 version. Jamming issues, no parts, no service going on 4 years now. Could have been a “SCAR Killer” and a better alternative to the AR15, but they’ve totally dropped the ball, at least here in the US, biggest market in the world.

As far as handguns, they seem to be pushing the lowest common denominator: cheap plastic Glock clones instead of the bread & butter high quality CZ75 variants that they built their (formerly) stellar reputation on.

I hear their sporting gun customers are none too happy, either, with the direction CZ is going.

[newageroman]

I agree with a lot of the sentiment here. I think the problem is that too many fat-so can't tote the weight of a real steel gun. IMO - If you are already out of shape, you should be trimming down the weight on your belly not your carry pistol. I commonly carry 97B in shoulder holster both open and concealed in the hot Bama sun /miata, so all of my poly loving friends get the eye roll..
I work from home most of the time so its not a full day thing, but I do also carry the 97 on roadbike rides too (great training weight).

Here is the way I see it from a comp/rangefun pistol shooter(mainly):
They are pushing the TS2 heavy as its their newest $$$$ - a lot of the upper class just buy that and go shoot I would think. I bet they will be doing a checkmate2 next year or 2.
I think 40 is out because of 9MAJ is now becoming more popular with the ability of Naas3 /shock cases.
I think they did miss the boat on the 97. My SAR K2 5 has a rail and hold 15. I think if CZ added a 10mm option, rail, shorter with 12 rounds at least that would have helped. I thought there was a 10mm conversion service for CZ custom. Am I dreaming about that or remembering it wrong?

Anyway I don't shoot the rifles but I know plenty that do and they seem disappointed.

What I would LOVE to see from CZ (or anyone) is a single stack alloy frame, hammer fired 30SC.
cheers! stay safe for the weekend!

[BBF97]

My normal carry except for very hot weather is a P226 or FS92 or 75 BD.

Those are big full size guns.  You are an exception to what most like in a concealed carry pistol which is primarily a small size.  But, if it works for you then that's what matters.  I have three children and drive a two seat convertible.  It's definitely not typical, but it works for me.

Most people I know carry full or mid-size. Only in the miserable heat and humidity of DC do I reach for the smaller guns. There never used to be micro 9s so that's what the world did.

[BBF97]

CZC did make a 97BD conversion to 10mm but dropped it and (told to me) something along the lines of the gun couldn't handle a steady diet of full loads. The 10 has a new wave for now and I hope it is the new 45. My APC10 Pro is amazing. And have 3 Sig P220/10 and a G20 for hunting/bear backup. At full loads, its a great round.

[double-d]

Concealed 1911 is a very real thing.

Yep.

But some people have never heard of Officer sized 1911's. 
(My typical carry is a Springfield Lightweight Compact PX9503L   1911 in 45acp)



---> Also carried a CZ75 Compact (#91190) before I gifted it to a family member.  To my knowledge, those are still available from the CZ catalog.

[armoredman]

CZC did make a 97BD conversion to 10mm but dropped it and (told to me) something along the lines of the gun couldn't handle a steady diet of full loads. The 10 has a new wave for now and I hope it is the new 45. My APC10 Pro is amazing. And have 3 Sig P220/10 and a G20 for hunting/bear backup. At full loads, its a great round.

CZ-USA made one total CZ-97 in 10mm. It worked, but the market apparently wasn't big enough for them to do it full time, especially counting the world market. Remember, there was no US plant at that time - maybe with using the Colt factory new models exclusively for the US market might be more possible. There is a video on YouTube of Zach shooting the only 10mm, which I THINK is on display at CZ-USA.
CZ has not eliminated the "bread and butter" CZ pistols, as the CZ-75 B, BD and Omega are still available, as well as the PCR, P-01, and steel frame Compact. The discontinuing of the 527/550 series was not a happy making time for me either, but we haven't seen what they plan on doing with the 600 series, especially with that hiccup with the switch barrel. I have to think they will expand the line once the kinks are worked out, and we might see a return of the micro centerfires. Also, the 600 series covers from 5.56mm/.223 up to 300 WinMag and 6.5 Creedmore and others. I hope it will be everything we liked about the 550 and the 527 melded together - I want a 600 Trail in 223 and a 600 Lux in 308.