Vz.58 5.56 model with 1:9" twist

[czrob2]

I just wanted to throw this out there as an FYI.

I contacted Czech Small Arms directly about getting a 223/556 model with a different twist rate because I'm not thrilled with 1:7".  I received an email reply and was surprised they offer a 1:9" version as well!  For those of us with a plethora of 55gr or 62gr 5.56 ammo, that's much better.

I'm not sure how to order one.  I sent an email to CzechPoint to see if they can import it.  I'll update this post when I hear back.

[fred2892]

Yes, Czech Small Arms offer a wide range of options for the VZ. Barrel length, calibres, twist, furniture, magazine sizes, even the finish colour. I’m in the U.K. and ordered mine in .222 with a 1:14 twist, 18” barrel, left hand bolt, 20 round magazines.and finished in green.


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[czrob2]

1:14? Wow.  I actually asked if they offered a 1:8" twist because I think that's ideal, and the email came back with 1:7 or 1:9.

[fred2892]

Yes, 1:14 is pretty much standard for the .222. Shoots flat base 50 grain bullets surprisingly well.


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[MeatAxe]

Yes, Czech Small Arms offer a wide range of options for the VZ. Barrel length, calibres, twist, furniture, magazine sizes, even the finish colour. I’m in the U.K. and ordered mine in .222 with a 1:14 twist, 18” barrel, left hand bolt, 20 round magazines.and finished in green.


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Had a question: in the UK can you have semi-auto (military-style) rifles, or do they have to be converted to manually-operated repeaters?

[RSR]

I just wanted to throw this out there as an FYI.

I contacted Czech Small Arms directly about getting a 223/556 model with a different twist rate because I'm not thrilled with 1:7".  I received an email reply and was surprised they offer a 1:9" version as well!  For those of us with a plethora of 55gr or 62gr 5.56 ammo, that's much better.

I'm not sure how to order one.  I sent an email to CzechPoint to see if they can import it.  I'll update this post when I hear back.

So the 1-7 was due to needing to stabilize tracer rounds...  Generally, 5.56 -- at least ball ammo -- has best terminal ballistics when not overspun.  Basically, use what will stabilize it and forget about the rest...

All copper bullets also require faster twists.

But basically for anything but super heavy all-copper or tracers, 1-9 will adequately spin all 5.56 non-tracer ammo up to 75 grains or so.

And much if not most of the stuff that would benefit from 1:8 over 1:9 would also require manual loading/be too long for reliable feeding in standard AR mags.

So I wish there were more, not less options w/ 1:9 twist in 5.56.

[fred2892]

Yes, Czech Small Arms offer a wide range of options for the VZ. Barrel length, calibres, twist, furniture, magazine sizes, even the finish colour. I’m in the U.K. and ordered mine in .222 with a 1:14 twist, 18” barrel, left hand bolt, 20 round magazines.and finished in green.


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Had a question: in the UK can you have semi-auto (military-style) rifles, or do they have to be converted to manually-operated repeaters?

The only semi-autos here are shotguns and .22LR rifles. But my VZ wasn’t converted, it was factory built as a straight-pull, there are no moving gas parts, the lothar walther barrel has no gas port and the gas block has no internal ports.


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[czrob2]

The only semi-autos here are shotguns and .22LR rifles. But my VZ wasn’t converted, it was factory built as a straight-pull, there are no moving gas parts, the lothar walther barrel has no gas port and the gas block has no internal ports.

I admire you guys keeping the fire alive over there, but I have to ask, why get such a Vz.58 instead of a bolt action?

[RSR]

I admire you guys keeping the fire alive over there, but I have to ask, why get such a Vz.58 instead of a bolt action?

Believe the stripper clip and intermediate caliber has a fair bit to w/ it...  Think why certain models are preferred for CA-compliance.

[fred2892]

The only semi-autos here are shotguns and .22LR rifles. But my VZ wasn’t converted, it was factory built as a straight-pull, there are no moving gas parts, the lothar walther barrel has no gas port and the gas block has no internal ports.

I admire you guys keeping the fire alive over there, but I have to ask, why get such a Vz.58 instead of a bolt action?

It’s just the direction I went with my collection. All my rifles are military patterns going from percussion muzzle loaders up to the VZ. We have only the semi auto limit over here. There’s no limit on calibres, mag capacity, removable mags, pistol grips or anything else really. And strangely compared to the states, silencers are common, easily obtained and are encouraged on the grounds of hearing preservation.
I went with the .222 because it was the most accurate round out of the available options. As I hand load for all my rifles it also turned out to be the most economical to produce.


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