Opinions on TS2 vs Bull SP-01/Shadow2 vs Staccato P for a range toy

[schutz85C]

I don't mean to go sideways in this thread, but Redhemi, is the CTS upper a drop in for the SP01 frame or which aspect needs alteration?

OP,I think you got some real good insights gathered here!

[SEAKPhotog]

I've got an SP01 fully Cajunized (and re-polished by me), an S2 OR I've done minimal work on, a well worn in TSO, a TS2 green with a milled slide but not much else done to it (they all have SROs) and a Staccato P with a DPP.  The best value by far is a new or used TSO.  Amazing gun at a reasonable price point, especially used.  My favorite of the bunch has turned out to be the milled TS2 Green. The close second is the TSO.  I shoot the TS2 just slightly better most days. As someone pointed out, TS models are different beasts and just wonderful.   I like all my CZs better than the Staccato.  IMHO, the Staccato P is over priced for what it is and not a good value compared to everything from an upgraded SP01 to the TS2. The trigger, especially, on my Staccato P is not worthy of a $2500, 1911 based gun even tho it's on the lighter side for Staccato Ps at about 2.5 pounds.  It's just average - not very crisp.  Fit and finish is good but I can say the same for my CZs, especially the TSO and TS2 (OK, the finish on the Staccato seems more robust). Reliability has been good after I sent it back to Staccato to have some teething pains fixed.  I shoot my CZs better but a buddy of mine shoots the Staccato better so we'll call accuracy out to at least 50-75 ft about equal.

[nick779]

I've got an SP01 fully Cajunized (and re-polished by me), an S2 OR I've done minimal work on, a well worn in TSO, a TS2 green with a milled slide but not much else done to it (they all have SROs) and a Staccato P with a DPP.  The best value by far is a new or used TSO.  Amazing gun at a reasonable price point, especially used.  My favorite of the bunch has turned out to be the milled TS2 Green. The close second is the TSO.  I shoot the TS2 just slightly better most days. As someone pointed out, TS models are different beasts and just wonderful.   I like all my CZs better than the Staccato.  IMHO, the Staccato P is over priced for what it is and not a good value compared to everything from an upgraded SP01 to the TS2.

Good to know. I'm still waiting to get hands on a few of these, but not really in any sort of rush. I decided to get my SP-01 milled & DLC coated, then go from there. Maybe pick up some steel targets to take to the range with me.

I'm leaning towards a TS2 RG with the CZC gas pedal optic mount when I go down that road. Initially I thought about a milled S2 with a SAO conversion, but that's nearing the same price as a TS2 RG and I'd rather have a TSO or TS2 RG.

I do at some point want to at least handle a 2011, but I'm not sold on all of the fine tuning they may or man not require. I clean all of my guns every 250-500 rounds/every range trip as I have time so maintenance isn't a problem. I just don't want to troubleshoot/fine tune at the range.

[SEAKPhotog]

I've got an SP01 fully Cajunized (and re-polished by me), an S2 OR I've done minimal work on, a well worn in TSO, a TS2 green with a milled slide but not much else done to it (they all have SROs) and a Staccato P with a DPP.  The best value by far is a new or used TSO.  Amazing gun at a reasonable price point, especially used.  My favorite of the bunch has turned out to be the milled TS2 Green. The close second is the TSO.  I shoot the TS2 just slightly better most days. As someone pointed out, TS models are different beasts and just wonderful.   I like all my CZs better than the Staccato.  IMHO, the Staccato P is over priced for what it is and not a good value compared to everything from an upgraded SP01 to the TS2.

Good to know. I'm still waiting to get hands on a few of these, but not really in any sort of rush. I decided to get my SP-01 milled & DLC coated, then go from there. Maybe pick up some steel targets to take to the range with me.

I'm leaning towards a TS2 RG with the CZC gas pedal optic mount when I go down that road. Initially I thought about a milled S2 with a SAO conversion, but that's nearing the same price as a TS2 RG and I'd rather have a TSO or TS2 RG.

I do at some point want to at least handle a 2011, but I'm not sold on all of the fine tuning they may or man not require. I clean all of my guns every 250-500 rounds/every range trip as I have time so maintenance isn't a problem. I just don't want to troubleshoot/fine tune at the range.

You'll love the TS2 green with frame mounted optic!  My TSO has a frame mounted optic.  It's so much fun. Perfect range toy.  I got impatient and found a TS2 green for a great price before the frame mounts were available, that's why mine is milled.  I'm seriously considering buying another so I can have one that's got a frame mounted optic as well (unless we can get the TS2 bronze here before I go nuts and order a 2nd TS2 green or I can find a TS2 slide/barrel combo).

[pcar157]

SEAK, seeing that you have both a TSO and the TS2 Green, here is a question. As you know the TSO inside the slide is machined to a bright silver finish as with all the Oranges. Does the TS2 Green also have this type of machining? Also is the TS2 Green slide fit as tight as the TSO slide to frame?

I have a TSO and I just love the gun and shoot it far better than any other gun that I own and that includes several $$$$ 1911s. Trying to decide if the TS2 Green would be a step up for me above the TSO.