P-01 or P-01 Omega?

[wb3jma]

Just signed up for CCW classes ad prolly want to get this but not sure what trigger.  I have the 75 B Omega and like the trigger and the fact you can swap out safety or de-cocker with the exception that the SA trigger action has a lot of take up. Also the Omega for this model has been discontinued and will get scarce after this year.

[Ron IL]

I just picked up the 75 P01 omega a couple weeks ago.  I love the gun and the trigger and shoot it better than any gun I have had.  Just as good as my 1911.  I am old and use it as my range gun.  It was the only one at the store and listed as used with a very good price.  It felt good in the hand and I bought it.  I didn't even know what I was buying except CZ 75 has a huge following.  I didn't even know what an omega was until I found this forum and done some reading and realized I had the omega.  If I were young and wanted this for a long time keeper I would go with the P01 just because of the discontinuing the omega.  I know there will parts for some time but would go with something that's been around and will probably be around for a long time.  Just my opinion. 

[briang2ad]

If you EVER plan to work on the gun, I'd consider the Omega.  If you ever have to take the gun down to work on it, the decocker series on the 75 is not for the faint hearted.  If you are good with detail strips its completely doable, but if not its tough. 

Or as you say if switching to a safety is a big deal there is only one choice.  Servicing an Omega is pretty darn easy, and I would venture that parts will be available for likely the  next several years.  The decocker/safety is unique.  I believe the trigger bar is shared with the P gun series based on a conversation with CGW.  P series should be available till next year when they cank that ( ). 

[wb3jma]

If you EVER plan to work on the gun, I'd consider the Omega.  If you ever have to take the gun down to work on it, the decocker series on the 75 is not for the faint hearted.  If you are good with detail strips its completely doable, but if not its tough. 

Or as you say if switching to a safety is a big deal there is only one choice.  Servicing an Omega is pretty darn easy, and I would venture that parts will be available for likely the  next several years.  The decocker/safety is unique.  I believe the trigger bar is shared with the P gun series based on a conversation with CGW.  P series should be available till next year when they cank that ( ).

Yea that part I know my CZ 75 B Omega came with decocker and was going to swap to safety and watched a video on it and was disauded.  What I'm really interested in is a direct comparison between the two on the DA/.SA triggers feel and weight.

[briang2ad]

It is somewhat hard to generalize, but OTB, I'd say the Omegas I have felt, especially in the alloy or steel framed guns feel a bit heavier than their non Omega counterparts. DA especially. This is easily remedied with a CGW FP/spring fix. 

A well tuned CZ 75 trigger is always going to beat a tuned Omega trigger. I have a heavily Cajunized P01 and it is better in terms of performance than my tuned P01 Omega.  The Omega is smoother, only because I worked the crap out of it.

But again, if you cringe at detail stripping, the omega beats the 75 all day. 

[bonj]

If you EVER plan to work on the gun, I'd consider the Omega.  If you ever have to take the gun down to work on it, the decocker series on the 75 is not for the faint hearted.  If you are good with detail strips its completely doable, but if not its tough. 

Or as you say if switching to a safety is a big deal there is only one choice.  Servicing an Omega is pretty darn easy, and I would venture that parts will be available for likely the  next several years.  The decocker/safety is unique.  I believe the trigger bar is shared with the P gun series based on a conversation with CGW.  P series should be available till next year when they cank that ( ).

Yea that part I know my CZ 75 B Omega came with decocker and was going to swap to safety and watched a video on it and was disauded.  What I'm really interested in is a direct comparison between the two on the DA/.SA triggers feel and weight.

I swapped out my CZ 75B Omega from the decocker to the safety per the youtube videos and it was very easy with no after issues.

On your DA/SA weights I have or had:

P-01 Omega 2019 issue DA/SA 9lbs/3lbs [two different Ser#'s]
P-01 Omega 2022 issue DA/SA 10.75lbs/4lbs
P-01 STEEL FRAME 2020 issue DA/SA 8lbs/4.5lbs

Other CZ Compacts:
CZ75D PCR 2021 issue DA/SA 9lbs/3.5lbs [two different Ser#'s]
CZ75D PCR 2021 issue DA/SA 10.5lbs/5lbs
CZ75D PCR 2022 issue DA/SA 8.5lbs/4lbs

[simplemann]

P-01 Omega its a great pistol.

[briang2ad]

The advantage of the NON Omega is the lockwork.  My Omega is smoother, but the DA feels much longer.  My P01 just has the lighter and shorter DA pull - which is a distinct advantage. 

[Joe A.]

The advantage of the NON Omega is the lockwork.  My Omega is smoother, but the DA feels much longer.  My P01 just has the lighter and shorter DA pull - which is a distinct advantage.

While not P01, the d.a. pull on my PCR is much shorter than the d.a. Pull on my P01 Omega. My PCR trigger pull is much better than my P01 Omega’s pull although it is slightly heavier.

[briang2ad]

And if you use the CGW hammer and SR kit, it is amazingly short.  Its the real advantage of the 75 lockwork.

The downside it working on it.  Its a challenge. 

[bonj]

To All, good info and thx for the inputs!
I don't have a P-01 and was considering adding one to my collection, but I would have to say, I really prefer my PCR over my P-01 Omega.
My PCR has a Loaded Chamber Indicator on top of the slide, which I rely on all of the time and for some reason, I am much more accurate with it.
Also I think it is more aesthetic and I don't need a rail.
I do have a P-01 omega with a light attached for a bedside gun however.
I also noticed that the newer P-01 Omega's have a .040" OAL [width]  thinner rubber grip at the widest point, apparently CZ has changed manufacturers of the rubber grip, which may impact some peoples grip hold. 

[sevt_chevelle]

IMO, the complexity of the decockers is way over stated.
Am not a fan of the omega style guns.

[bonj]

IMO, the complexity of the decockers is way over stated.
Am not a fan of the omega style guns.

What about the CZ Omega statement that reads... Not only does this simplify maintenance, the trigger parts themselves are made of different materials to enhance durability, operation life and reliability.

[sevt_chevelle]

Like I said, the difficulty associated with the decocker guns is over played IMO.

So IMO, ease of maintenance is moot.  I might detail strip my multiple decockers once a year, and it's no big deal to do so.

If you got the cash for ammo to shoot out a traditional lock work CZ, you got the cash to replace a few parts.

Other than TRS, and slide stops, CZs are not known for crappy weak parts that need replacing.  The omegas break trs springs too.

[M1A4ME]

Most people who buy a pistol will never shoot it enough to wear it out, maybe not even to break it in till it's nice and smooth.

If you don't want to take it apart to detail clean it then field strip it, remove the grips from the frame and spray it out good with some carb or brake cleaner, let it dry, spray some lube into it to get that protective coating of oil back on the metal surfaces that the cleaners stripped off while blowing the crud out of it and then wipe off the excess and lube with your usual oil.

I prefer the Omega for the thumb safeties.  I like consistency.  If I carry the P07 it has safeties.  If I carry the Shield plus it has a safety.  If I carry the P01 Omega it has safeties.  Etc, etc., etc.  I never carry it these days but if I wanted to carry the old Colt 1911 Series 80 or the Pre B CZ85, they have safeties.  Just me but I like for everything to work the same way when I don't have time to think about how to make it work.  Drive a car with an automatic and also have one with a manual transmission?  How many times has your left foot helped your right foot on the brake pedal of the car with the automatic transmission because your mind/body was trying to push the clutch pedal in?  How many times have you not down shifted to 1st gear at a stop light while driving the manual transmission car because you've been driving the car with the automatic transmission?

I don't notice the length of the trigger pull between where it starts to the rear and the "wall" where it stops just before the last little bit of rearward movement releases the hammer/striker.  I notice the trigger pull after the "wall."  My mind/trigger finger take up that initial rearward movement without me thinking about it (which is why I'd never carry that Tactical Sport in a holster.  It's just a range gun I take to the range every year of so to remind myself how heavy it is and how light the trigger is.

If you don't mind using a decocker pistol the old P01 model should do fine.  If you like safeties the Omega should work out for you.  Remember, the standard decocker pistol CZ makes have a decocker that works differently than the Omegas.  If you're a fan of decockers and consistency, stick with the PCR/P01/BD style decocker pistol.  If all you own is P07/P09 pistols with decockers then the P01 Omega might work out better as the decockers rotate the same direction and are in the same place on the frame relative to where your thumb is.