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Offline Weinstein

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527 Carbine 7.62x39 Range Report
« on: April 04, 2003, 05:34:57 PM »
Well, first of all my Kalinka scope is not on this rifle as planned... with the forward mounted adjustment turret and layout of the scope, it would not clear the bolt handle and just felt awkward.  I'll find another use for it, I suppose.  My carbine now wears a 4x Leupold compact in Talley rings.

At 50 yards (getting the scope dialed in) I was practically cloverleafing the rounds in the x ring...no problems whatsoever.  Sighted in with some OLD Lapua ball...which is great ammo, but about 2/3 were duds.  I've heard the Finnish primers don't hold up too well to long term storage, and this stuff was 20 years old at least.

With my handloads (not a recommendation, your mileage may vary, check published load data first, if you blow up it's not my fault) of new Winchester cases, Winchester large rifle primer, 44.5 grains IMR 4198, Sierra 125 Spitzer, 5 shot groups at 50 yards were about the same, sub one inch.

With the rifle warmed up, 100 yard groups were good.  I had one where 4 were touching and one was about 1/2 inch away.  EXCELLENT accuracy potential.

Unfortunately, when I left the rifle for a while to shoot something else, and it cooled down....the Point of Impact shifted 1" left and 3 to 4 inches up.  As it warmed up, it returned approximately to zero and started laying 'em in...but you could see the stringing back to original zero as it warmed.

The barrel channel is touching on the right side of the barrel, like every other 527 I've seen.  I'm going to free float this one....and my 527 American .223...and am confident that this will solve my problem permanently.

Anyhow, great little rifle and great accuracy potential.  Perfect 100 to 150 yard Deer and Pig gun.  :)

Interesting point:  with the throat on this rifle, it's impossible to load a bullet (at least the 125 Sierra) long enough to touch the lands, and still have it fit in the magazine.  My handloads were loaded to just fit in the mag.

Offline Weinstein

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2003, 05:37:36 PM »
Good thing I put in that disclaimer... :o

It was actually 24.5 grains of 4198.  If you can get 44.5 grains of 4198 into a 7.62x39 case, you have my respect. :eek

Offline bullsi1911

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2003, 10:11:38 AM »
Thumbs up!  Glad to hear you are pulling that accuracy with that under appreciated 7.62x39 round.  

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2003, 11:59:13 PM »
There is some accurate reload info for 7.62x39 on full-auto.com. A member named Roma Rana custom built a Mauser in that caliber and has done some load work for it.

Offline Weinstein

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2003, 05:37:41 PM »
Rifle is free floated and ready to go.  Range trip scheduled for tomorrow AM... will post results.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2003, 10:26:23 AM »
Well, about a week later than planned, the results are in.

Plunks 'em right in the ten ring at 100 yards, no impact shift due to barrel heating or cooling.

Pulled down the misfiring Lapua 7.62x39 and rolled it up in some new Winchester brass, duplicating the charge with the pulled down powder.  Also seated the bullets a bit further out, and no crimp.

At 200 yards, the ball ammo (hotter than my softpoint loads) held the 10 ring at 200 yards,  point of aim =  point of impact.

Not too shabby.  I think I may give this rifle (metal and wood both) the camo paint treatment, turn it into a true field gun. :hat

Offline JC

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2003, 10:02:10 AM »
ARe they .308 or .311" ?

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2003, 03:00:36 PM »
Here's mine... sigforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tp...m=51260951

Just got it yesterday. I'd REALLY appreciate any suggestions for factory ammo. I just don't have the time or place for handloading yet.:D