TS2 CIP N marking and value

[EddieB]

I have 2 TS2's and I happen to notice that one has CIP  N stamping.  Did some research and found a post here on the board.

I imagine it's because the gun was made in the EU and not the US, then imported. It's a requirement in the European Union. CIP N is the standardized proofing method used. You should find the actual proofing house mark somewhere on the pistol too.

So does this make the gun any more or less valuable?  They both shoot great, I would want to keep the one that is worth more.

Thanks for any feedback

[Psyop96]

The CIP has its foundation in Belgium over a century ago and well before the EU existed. A 1969 convention set standards and recognition among signatory countries for each others proof marks. While most are EU countries such as the Czech Republic among the current 14 signatories, it also includes Russia, UAE, Chile and the UK. Notable EU countries that are not signatories are Poland, Sweden and Croatia. The official language is French. Around 2014, CIP/N proof marks started showing up on CZ firearms as an additional proof mark to the Czech ones. In 2017, CZ started using non-CIP proof marks for the firearms they expressly intend for export to non-CIP signatory markets such as the USA (where no proofs of any kind are required). One can guess at whether this was done to reduce any potential backlog for registration of CIP proofing (but not the actual proofing process) on every firearm made. Can’t say whether there’s any buyer premium out there based on some perceived notion of greater value added for a CIP proof mark if both pistols are equal in every other aspect.


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[Tok36]

^^I think i look this up around once a year. Then forget it gain. 

[EddieB]

The CIP has its foundation in Belgium over a century ago and well before the EU existed. A 1969 convention set standards and recognition among signatory countries for each others proof marks. While most are EU countries such as the Czech Republic among the current 14 signatories, it also includes Russia, UAE, Chile and the UK. Notable EU countries that are not signatories are Poland, Sweden and Croatia. The official language is French. Around 2014, CIP/N proof marks started showing up on CZ firearms as an additional proof mark to the Czech ones. In 2017, CZ started using non-CIP proof marks for the firearms they expressly intend for export to non-CIP signatory markets such as the USA (where no proofs of any kind are required). One can guess at whether this was done to reduce any potential backlog for registration of CIP proofing (but not the actual proofing process) on every firearm made. Can’t say whether there’s any buyer premium out there based on some perceived notion of greater value added for a CIP proof mark if both pistols are equal in every other aspect.

Thanks for the detailed info.