P10c trigger pull

[Macgruber81]

Is 5.5# outside the norm for a NIB P10c?   I read where they were all supposed to be like 4.5#.   The example in question has a nice feeling pull, it’s just not amazing.  What should the expectation be after break-in?

[Earl Keese]

Honestly, it's all over the place. That's why they call it the "CZ trigger lottery".

[Macgruber81]

Well what’s on the high end that you see?   Over 6#?   

[Earl Keese]

I've heard of 6.5lbs on the high end, and 4.5lbs at the low end. Some are smooth with a nice cleanish break, others are gritty. They do seem to break in fairly nicely if you get a decent one. Mine breaks crisply around 3lbs but it took some work and parts to get there. Even still, not quite as good as my Canik Rival. *Not a fair comparison, just added for reference.

[Macgruber81]

Okay good to know.  So it seems mine is somewhere in the middle then as it stands currently. 

[GregBFL]

I recently purchased my P-10 C OR (MPN 91527) during PSA's Independence Day Sale so I'm assuming it's a newer model. I installed Overwatch Precision's TAC Trigger and NP3 coated Striker and I wanted to see the before/after trigger pull weights so I have them recorded. According to my Wheeler digital trigger pull (and verified by Wheeler manual trigger pull guage) the OEM trigger pull weight was 4 lb 11 oz. After installing the OP TAC Trigger and NP3 coated Striker my trigger pull weight is 4 lb 4 oz which means Overwatch Precision's estimated trigger pull weight reduction of 1/2 pound is pretty accurate.

Overwatch Precision also claims a reduction in pre-travel but unfortunately, I didn't take measurements in the OEM form. I did take measurements after I installed the OP TAC Trigger and NP3 coated Striker. For those interested the take-up is now 1/8 in (0.125 inch) or maybe a hair shorter until you hit the wall. After that there is smooth stacking (creep) for 1/16 in (0.063 in) and then the break. The main reason I switched to the OP TAC Trigger was the safety tab irritated my finger. That, and I have OP TAC Triggers on all my Glocks and I really like the way the trigger shoe feels. I almost went with Apex's Trigger but I read numerous reviews where people said if the Apex Disconnector is used it changes the trigger from a wall to a rolling break which I'm not fond of.

[FakeCZName]

I bought a CZ P-10S recently and even though it functions well and has decent sights and even looks good, my overall impression is that it is somewhat disappointing. Underwhelming, I should say. I was hoping it would be a good carry option with a great trigger. It is OK, but I like my Cajunized P-07 much much better and shoot better with it. Not really a fair comparison.

But to make a more fair comparison, I also have a Canik Mete MC9. The P-10s 3.5" barrel ought to outshoot the Canik's little 3.18" barrel, but it does not. The MC9 outshoots the P-10S every time. The trigger on the MC9 is probably the best striker fired trigger I have ever felt, with the possible exception of my modified Canik TP9 Elite.

Anyway, the P-10S isn't an improvement over a Glock of the same size. And like the OP, the trigger break weight is more than I want it to be. I suppose I could invest in Cajunization, but this gun just doesn't do anything for me that is special. It functions, but I like others better for carry.

[Wobbly]

Seems to me that the trigger pull and break are greatly effected by P10 accessories like the trigger replacement and alternate firing pin. Replacements are offered by CGW, HBI and several others.

• https://cajungunworks.com/product-category/p-10-c/
• https://hbindustries.net/store/product-category/cz-usa/cz-p10-products/
• https://www.apextactical.com/blog/apex-news/apex-announces-new-cz-p-10-trigger-kit/
• https://overwatchprecision.com/cz-p10-tac-trigger-and-striker-kit-for-9mm-models/
• https://www.mcarbo.com/CZ-P10-Flat-Trigger-Omega-Competition-Series.aspx

[AZ_GunGuy]

Gun oil on the moving parts might drop your pull by half a pound.  I've done before / after tests with Lucas gun oil using a Lyman to test and it can make a measurable difference.

I have the HBI -15% spring in mine and I pull a consistent 3.75#.  This is with no mods to the lower.

[FakeCZName]

I put synthetic gun oil directly on the trigger interface parts. It is still too heavy a break for me. The Canik MC9 is so much easier to shoot. But I love CZ, so how much trigger weight reduction can you get with CGW?

I really want to like this gun, but can't the way it is now. It needs to lose about a pound of trigger break weight.

[Wobbly]

...so how much trigger weight reduction can you get with CGW?

A great question for CGW.

[Joe L]

Try a Glock 4 lb striker spring with Glock retainers.  If that isn't light enough, try the CGW striker along with the Glock spring and keepers.  But I don't carry these pistols, so the lighter striker spring is OK for my range use.  And one must use ammo without hard primers.  You can also do some very light polishing of the trigger bar and disconnector as well as at the striker leg to shorten the break in time.  I made these mild modifications to my three P-10's and they have been fine for many rounds since. 

[Macgruber81]

Shot 150 rounds the other day and after cleaning it’s breaking at 5.25# now so it came down a quarter pound, which is a nice start.   I ordered the HB Industries striker spring kit though are they as reliable as the factory spring?    I don’t shoot any ammo known for hard primers I don’t think though I know it’s always a possibility that a round in any given batch can exist and I’d much rather have a slightly heavier trigger vs. a lighter trigger that had occasional issues with ignition.   

[AZ_GunGuy]

Shot 150 rounds the other day and after cleaning it’s breaking at 5.25# now so it came down a quarter pound, which is a nice start.   I ordered the HB Industries striker spring kit though are they as reliable as the factory spring?    I don’t shoot any ammo known for hard primers I don’t think though I know it’s always a possibility that a round in any given batch can exist and I’d much rather have a slightly heavier trigger vs. a lighter trigger that had occasional issues with ignition.

I've not had a light strike with the -15% HBI spring, but that's after only 200 rounds.  Bullet technology is better nowadays and there should be less chance of a light strike.  It's hard to know for sure how much more likely a light strike is with any given configuration.

I've only experienced light strikes with poor quality 22lr/223 ammo, and in those cases I was shooting unmodified guns.  Not telling you what to do, but high quality carry ammo can help reduce the risk of a light strike.

[crager67]

i have 2 P10s's. the first one with about 700 rounds through it has a 4.5# trigger pull. the 2nd with only 200 rounds or so is just a tad over 5#. the P10s trigger pull is pretty short and crisp and has never bothered me. definitely one of my easier to shoot subcompacts.