Yet another bad trigger - P01

[briang2ad]

Picked up another P01.  Another 'stacker'.  Half way through the pull the gun hits a wall just like the other and increases to likely 14 LBs.  This is not atypical.  So... sent it back to CZ to give them a shot,  and they said that the gun had been improperly reassembled by the cerakote applier.  They replaced a lifter spring and sent it back to me.  Still stacks horribly and feels the same as when I sent it in.  I know that I had put 200 rounds through it trouble free with no issues and no funny feelings in decocking the gun.  I say BS.

It is obvious to me that the decocker models have a real tendancy to stack badly, and I think it is an artifact from redesigning the 75 system to a decocker from the manual safety - unlike SIG P guns. 

Why do I buy them?  I like the alloy frame and they don't make a compact with a manual safety - and I shoot them well.  (Yes now the S2 has a model - for double the price).  I also shoot them fairly well, and they are indeed as light as a P07 - and with CGW you can make them satisfactory.  When I cajunize it, I may look at a new TB. 

I know I'll hack some off here, but nubes need to hear this, and just understand the playing field. 

[Wobbly]

Still stacks horribly and feels the same as when I sent it in.  I know that I had put 200 rounds through it trouble free with no issues and no funny feelings in decocking the gun.  I say BS.

Let me get this straight. You bought a gun. You put 200 rounds through it "trouble free". Then you sent it off to have Cerakote applied. Is that the sequence? Just asking.

[crc4]

My P-01 Omega had no problems out of the box. While both DA and SA pull were more than I wanted, a M*Carbo trigger spring kit and some polishing made the trigger pull lighter and smoother. It took about 1.5 hours to do it all.

Now the P-01 is my EDC and has replaced my CZ 75B which also had a M*Carbo trigger kit and polishing) as my nightstand firearm.

I don't blame firearms for my failures.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Oh good grief not again! What kind of cheese would you like and can I send you a box of Puffs to go with it?

[crager67]

My P-01 Omega had no problems out of the box. White both DA and SA pull were more than I wanted, a M*Carbo trigger spring kit and some polishing made the trigger pull lighter and smoother. It took about 1.5 hours to do it all.

Now the P-01 is my EDC and has replaced my CZ 75B which also had a M*Carbo trigger kit and polishing) as my nightstand firearm.

I don't blame firearms for my failures.

my experience exactly.

[briang2ad]

No one is blaming "my failures" on a firearm. 

The gun was bought from a vendor that sells cerakoted CZs - and its NOT their fault - again, there was nothing wrong with the gun ( in terms of reliability) and not really with the decocker as CZ purported.  That was a canard.  Obviously, the gun had been dis and reassembled by the distributor/seller. 

I could shoot the gun well enough, and I like CZs because they shoot well naturally.  Their decocker models tend to have suck triggers - and I have explained why.  If it were NOT for CGW, I would own only PreBs. 

When I GET a pistol, I provide input to the forum.  If you love CZs and don't like hearing about flaws, you can simply ignore my posts.  Its OK.  Its America.  (Well... maybe not).

Again, nubes need to understand the positive and negative aspects of the decocker CZs. 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I've owned mostly decocker model CZ's and never had aproblem shooting any of them well as they were. I'm a far bigger trigger snob than you are so I simply modify every gun I GET to my liking and don't give it a second thought and the lousy Sig P229's I've owned all needed work as well yet I never bothered to join the Sig forum to run them down.

[Whereisit]

I own a few decocker models.. No issues. I got tavor sar cerekoted by a "reputable" business and the trigger has never been the same. Even after I sanded down the areas they over sprayed onto the trigger bar. I'll never do it again.

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[M1A4ME]

I know all my Omegas have a double action trigger pull.

I remember pulling the trigger DA on the DUTY P07 .40 not long after I bought it and measuring the DA trigger pull (around 8.5 lbs. or so.)  I'm sure I measured the DA trigger pulls on the two P09s, the other P07, both P01 Omegas, et.  Can't tell you what any of them measured out at.

It's why I bought Omegas.  Remove the decockers, install the safeties, carry cocked and locked and shoot it SAO.

Do any of mine have a badly stacking trigger?  Heck if I know.

[crc4]

Oh good grief not again! What kind of cheese would you like and can I send you a box of Puffs to go with it?

Some people just have bad luck - the majority of it self-generated.

[benq]

So your post is more of a public service announcement? It is a $500 gun designed for military and police use. I expect it to function under heavy use and less than ideal conditions. Sometimes you get lucky and get one with a decent trigger. If it was an Orange or AO1 and had a stacked trigger, I'd be livid! Then again we are in the $1700+ range now.

I had a P-09 that stacked really bad even with CGW guts.  I just shot the hell out of it.  Now I don't even notice the stacking(it is still there).

[briang2ad]

Its a $600 gun and many pay more.  I GET grit.  I am OK with a $600 gun  with some grit.  You either shoot 2000 rounds through it or work on it - simple.

When it stacks badly it is a harder deal.  Yes I've worked out stacking on P guns and even a PreB - but these were less money for sure. 

producing luck - illogical.  There is defintely a sizable probability of getting a CZ that stacks especially when buying online.  So yes, this is somewhat 'public service' in that you won't hear this from onlline reviewers who normally get hand picked guns sent to them, so folks don't even know this problem exists.

Not telling people NOT to buy CZ, but that you can expect some to have bad triggers - especially in DA.    OTOH, the P01 will be 100% reliable OTB, and accurate to boot.  Just know where the poison is a plan accordingly. 

I also know it from handling CZs in shops when I do see them.  Heck, I even picked up a $800 Swiss clone (AT84) a few months back that also had a suck trigger. 

Why did I suffer to buy another online?  Cuz for coming with a professional cerakote, it was a decent deal.  If you buy, then have it refinished, you end up adding over $200 when you have it cerakoted.  I'm a sucker for an OD framed P01. 

[RSR]

Its a $600 gun and many pay more.  I GET grit.  I am OK with a $600 gun  with some grit.  You either shoot 2000 rounds through it or work on it - simple.

When it stacks badly it is a harder deal.  Yes I've worked out stacking on P guns and even a PreB - but these were less money for sure. 

producing luck - illogical.  There is defintely a sizable probability of getting a CZ that stacks especially when buying online.  So yes, this is somewhat 'public service' in that you won't hear this from onlline reviewers who normally get hand picked guns sent to them, so folks don't even know this problem exists.

Not telling people NOT to buy CZ, but that you can expect some to have bad triggers - especially in DA.    OTOH, the P01 will be 100% reliable OTB, and accurate to boot.  Just know where the poison is a plan accordingly. 

I also know it from handling CZs in shops when I do see them.  Heck, I even picked up a $800 Swiss clone (AT84) a few months back that also had a suck trigger. 

Why did I suffer to buy another online?  Cuz for coming with a professional cerakote, it was a decent deal.  If you buy, then have it refinished, you end up adding over $200 when you have it cerakoted.  I'm a sucker for an OD framed P01.

Just saying -- sounds like this one of the CZ Customs ODG ones with the slide milled for a micro red dot, but I thought those were all Omegas...  IIRC, around $1k price point.  Feel free to correct if I'm mistaken. 

EDIT: Found it on GB and $1.5k pricetag, and I'm not affiliated in any way with the listing: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1009377435
*Though it does say POLYCOAT, not Ceracoat.

[briang2ad]

Omaha Outdoors.  if CZC made it the trigger would not be like this.  Its NOT OO's fault either. 

[Knight3124]

I think I was lucky. When I got my P-01 Omega, the pickup rail was damaged at the factory. I noticed it right after I got the gun home and took it apart for cleaning. I sent it to CZ, and when I got it back there was a note in there saying after they fixed the rail, they went ahead and polished the internals to compensate me for my troubles. It's a fantastic trigger now.