Buyers market

[357MAGNOLE]

I believe we have found ourselves in a buyers market. I walked into my LGS today and they had this Shadow 2 Orange, lightly used in the case for $1080. I paid $1170 out the door. A year or so ago I couldn't find these in stock under $1800.

[crosstimbers]

Im glad for you, I really am....but I cant share your sentiments about anything related to firearms purchases being a buyers market. Everything i am interested in is still way over priced.

But...my areas of interest are mostly rifles, not handguns, so....maybe thats just me

[jwc007]

Sweet deal!    Congratulations! 

As for it being a buyers market, I think it mostly depends upon the area you are in and the Gun Shop you are dealing with.

Gun Shops in more populated areas tend to be higher priced.
Small rural area Gun Shops, with less foot traffic, tend to have lower prices.  YMMV!

The costs in your particular State, also have bearing on pricing.
Prices, where I am at, always tend to be higher.

[Rmach]

There were a few online stores selling new Shadow 2 Oranges for ~$1450 delivered a few months ago.

[Claymore504]

Good find for a great price. My area (SE Texas) has finally started to level out on pricing. I pretty much only buy used these days and through private sales. Most people have started realizing that the outrageous prices are not being paid anymore. Still a few out there, but less for sure.

[bubbas4570]

My local online "market place" is still, and always has been, higher priced than what the market actually is for private sales.  I credit that to the persons who are trying to get those that will pay the extra money for something that should not be there in price.  There are many on this online place that have their stuff marked up at prices that are at least, and usually a bit higher than, most of the used prices in local gunshops. 

There are always some good priced pieces on there, and those don't usually last long.  Occasionally, some even are purchased and resold for a markup on the same website.....now that is something that makes me     There were many cases of ammo and primers being sold this way, for a substantial markup in the past.....at least until they were trolled relentlessly by a few guys that I know for doing this.

[armoredman]

Very nice indeed! Down here, not so much for CZs, but I can find Taurus G2s for $250 all day long.

[RSR]

AND...  w/ the ME nonsense, it appears we're again entering a seller's market less than one month past the OP's post.

[Alcoy]

OP, congrats.  Time to add a line in your signature area.

[crc4]

Whether it's a buyer's market or seller's market, I support sellers setting their prices however high someone else may think
it to be. No one is forced to buy. No one can tell the seller what a 'fair' price is and expect a seller to abide by that 'fair' price. The price is what the seller determines. That's the way it should be. Pay the price, or don't buy it.

What's interesting is the same people who cry foul at supposed high prices, would be the first to sell their own goods for 'high' prices if given the chance.

I set my prices as high as possible as I'm not a charity nor a socialist.

[Lock-n-load]

Nice score! We are so lucky in Wyoming to get good deals like that considering the gun stores are full and everybody has lotta weapons. Cheap deals are rare.🤣🤣

[crosstimbers]

Whether it's a buyer's market or seller's market, I support sellers setting their prices however high someone else may think
it to be. No one is forced to buy. No one can tell the seller what a 'fair' price is and expect a seller to abide by that 'fair' price. The price is what the seller determines. That's the way it should be. Pay the price, or don't buy it.

What's interesting is the same people who cry foul at supposed high prices, would be the first to sell their own goods for 'high' prices if given the chance.

I set my prices as high as possible as I'm not a charity nor a socialist.

I've sold a lot of guns, and used to be a FFL. I always set what I considered to be a fair price, given what I had to pay and reasonably expected to make above that. I considered it good business, to try and keep a balance between having appealing prices while still making a modest profit. That's not being charitable nor being socialistic, it was just what I felt was good business practice- as better prices tend to help with repeat business. That and I don't like being gouged for the last penny myself. I respect the ideals of capitalism, but things can and do go too far. That's why we now have pickups that cost as much as my first house.

[bang bang]

welcome

sometimes it not the buyers market, but being at the right place at the right time.

and also wanting what others dont want.

[RSR]

I've sold a lot of guns, and used to be a FFL. I always set what I considered to be a fair price, given what I had to pay and reasonably expected to make above that. I considered it good business, to try and keep a balance between having appealing prices while still making a modest profit. That's not being charitable nor being socialistic, it was just what I felt was good business practice- as better prices tend to help with repeat business. That and I don't like being gouged for the last penny myself. I respect the ideals of capitalism, but things can and do go too far. That's why we now have pickups that cost as much as my first house.

Pickups now cost as much as your house primarily due to gov't regulations, but also due to fact that America is increasingly not free-market capitalism, but instead crony capitalism (i.e., fascism).  Great read over the weekend on such as it applies to ammo: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/why-america-is-out-of-ammunition

Re: selling firearms on auction sites, I start my price at what I see as fair market rate and then set a Buy Now as what I see as max reasonable value...  That said, for one of a kind items, no issue with letting bidders determine what it's worth. 
It's a different animal if you're putting prices on items in a shop, in which case you price at lowest possible price that achieves necessary profit margins, which is often under MSRP when it comes to guns.

[crosstimbers]

I've sold a lot of guns, and used to be a FFL. I always set what I considered to be a fair price, given what I had to pay and reasonably expected to make above that. I considered it good business, to try and keep a balance between having appealing prices while still making a modest profit. That's not being charitable nor being socialistic, it was just what I felt was good business practice- as better prices tend to help with repeat business. That and I don't like being gouged for the last penny myself. I respect the ideals of capitalism, but things can and do go too far. That's why we now have pickups that cost as much as my first house.

Pickups now cost as much as your house primarily due to gov't regulations, but also due to fact that America is increasingly not free-market capitalism, but instead crony capitalism (i.e., fascism).  Great read over the weekend on such as it applies to ammo: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/why-america-is-out-of-ammunition

Re: selling firearms on auction sites, I start my price at what I see as fair market rate and then set a Buy Now as what I see as max reasonable value...  That said, for one of a kind items, no issue with letting bidders determine what it's worth. 
It's a different animal if you're putting prices on items in a shop, in which case you price at lowest possible price that achieves necessary profit margins, which is often under MSRP when it comes to guns.

Well, you left out one important ingredient in why things cost so much....greed. Plain and simple. Build things more cheaply, say they are "improved", sell them more dear than ever before. Thats the way that everything has gone, houses, vehicles, everything. There is nothing laudable about it.

Most of my sales were online, and most of them used firearms that I flipped. I set the start bid at what I felt I had to get out of the item, then if I set a buy now price (which I rarely did) it was on the high side. At that point in time a seller could have shorter auctions, and I usually did 3 days. When they disallowed the shorter time periods that was part of why I stopped selling.