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Offline KneverKnew

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2023, 10:27:33 AM »
Here is my CGW shopping cart list so far.
Goal is to reduce DA and SA pull weight, creep and over travel.
Will these items reduce pull length and reset length?

CZ 97 Extended Firing Pin CZ97
13# Hammer Spring
Firing Pin Retaining Pin 61100
Adjustable Sear Adjustable
Manual Safety Hammer - Race, black.

Anything else I’m missing or will this do it?

Is there any big benefit in getting the CGW Standard Kit (formerly self defense)  over my individual parts list?
1 – ASB Adjustable Sear
1 – TRPIN Floating Trigger Pin
1 – RPTRS Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring
1 – HS-13 13# Hammer Spring
1 – 61060 Firing Pin
1 – 61100 Firing Pin Retaining Pin
1 – 72750 Lite weight firing pin block plunger spring
1 – 14M Machined Lifting Arm
2 – 28 Grip Screws
2 – HPIN Hammer Pin
1- LSpring
1- 500318 Extra Heavy Firing Pin Block Plunger Spring
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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2023, 11:53:29 AM »
Here is my CGW shopping cart list so far.
Goal is to reduce DA and SA pull weight, creep and over travel.
Will these items reduce pull length and reset length?

CZ 97 Extended Firing Pin CZ97
13# Hammer Spring
Firing Pin Retaining Pin 61100
Adjustable Sear Adjustable
Manual Safety Hammer - Race, black.

Anything else I’m missing or will this do it?

If you want to change the reset and trigger "slop" you will have to add a trigger with adjustment screws, a short reset lifter, L spring, and a disconnector. 

You are essentially going to have the pro package built at this point.  Hence the reason for the original suggestion to just go ahead and do the pro package.

If you just want to eliminate over travel then an original 85C trigger with pre and over travel set screws is needed.  A floating trigger pin is also very helpful for ease of reassembly and future tear downs.  I'd also suggest a hammer pin for installing the new hammer.

Look at the contents of the pro package and decide.  Better yet, call CGW and discuss what you want and they will ensure you get what you need.  They are very helpful and willing to spend the time over the phone to help answer questions.

Cheers,
Toby
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Offline KneverKnew

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2023, 01:04:00 PM »
Thank you Toby. I will give them a call.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2023, 01:38:26 PM »
Wow!!
I placed the order for the 97B Pro Package yesterday around noon. Package is OUT FOR DELIVERY right now. Should be arriving any minute. Just WOW!

I already have my gun completely disassembled and ready. Although, I need desperate cleaning from range session the other day.

I forgot to weigh the standard DA/ SA pull weights before pulling it apart. Can someone let me know what they are for my records please?
Thanks.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2023, 08:55:54 PM »
My stock 97BD had the following average trigger pulls:

SA:  3.5 lb
DA:  10.5 lb

It varies a little with age and use as they break in and smooth out over time.

With the Pro Package I'm going to guess you are going to be the following:

SA 2.5 lb
DA 8.0 lb

Congrats on the addiction!  You will be spoiled with a tuned CZ trigger.  Good luck on the install!

Cheers,
Toby
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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2023, 10:21:05 PM »
CZ custom also offers an excellent package.

+1  And they’ve been doing this long before CGW came on the scene.  Truth is, neither company would exist if it wasn’t for CZ’s crappy triggers. 

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2023, 03:00:19 PM »
In the 97b pro package I received, there was not a reduced power trigger safety plunger spring, as well as an extra power plunger spring. What is the difference? Which do I use? Instructions are not very clear. 

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2023, 10:18:56 PM »
You can use the plunger spring to tune the sa pull weight.  I'd start with the light one and see how it feels

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2023, 06:52:54 AM »
Enjoy tuning your pistola.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2023, 07:11:41 AM »
Thanks. I’m sure I will enjoy it…once I get done processing this deer meat. 😁

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2023, 05:38:49 PM »
Stupid question. Is the Red Loctite they say to put on the various screws in the Pro package the PERMANENT kind? For some reason using that stuff worries me.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2023, 08:59:39 PM »
I'd red loctite the adjustable sear. 

You can get away with blue on the trigger set screws.  Red works as well.

Red isn't that hard to loosen with heat.

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Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2023, 09:19:35 AM »
CGW recommends the use of red on the adjustable sear since once it's set and the safety is operating properly there is never any reason for further adjustment.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2023, 09:38:48 AM »
Ok. Got it. I got some red.

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Re: Trigger weight reduction?
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2023, 04:20:36 PM »
Pro package installation complete. I think I did it right. I do have one issue that bothers me.
When I pull trigger, the then wrack the slide while holding trigger rearward, then slowly release, I get a very quick and light reset but as I continue to release the trigger there is another audible “reset.” To I get two clicks when releasing trigger for SA reset. What did I do wrong?