Trigger weight reduction?

[KneverKnew]

So I got my CZ 97B and I really like it. But of course one can’t leave good enough alone.

Obviously the primary upgrade I have in mind is trigger pull. Please let me know where to look for appropriate upgrades.
I want to reduce both DA and SA but would like it to remain safe for carry with loaded chamber/ hammer down. That way safety can be off and first round fired will be heavier DA.
Seems to work fine for my P228 and 229.
Suggestions and opinions are greatly appreciated.

Any other upgrades I should consider for the 97? Grips? Extended mags?

[dillonguy098]

Cajun Gun Works Pro Package is most likely what you're looking for. The kit will keep your 97 DA/SA while improving the trigger pull in each mode. Just my personal opinion. Good luck.

[Plinkasaurusrex]

CZ custom also offers an excellent package.

[KneverKnew]

Would there be a preference between CGW or CZ Customs?

[dillonguy098]

I've ordered parts from both companies. As far as trigger upgrades go, I've only ordered from Cajun Gun Works. They are both very good companies to deal with. You can't go wrong with either company. Are you planning to upgrade the trigger yourself?

[KneverKnew]

Thanks for the reply. I will check out each companies offerings. Yes I will install myself. Not a concern.

[KneverKnew]

Wow!! Over 300 for the upgrade kit. I’ll have to pass for a while after just paying for the gun. Still looking for a decent holster though. Not sure I should even try for IWB due to size of the gun. Any one EDC the 97? Thoughts?
Any more suggestions on holsters?

How does the guns finish hold up to a Kydex or leather holster? How quickly does it wear off?

[Alcoy]

For reduce DA/SA trigger pull, 13# Hammer Spring ($7), Extended Firing Pin with Spring ($25), and Firing Pin Retaining Pin ($5). 

I kept the original Firing Pin Block Plunger Spring on my P-01  (carry) and have the lighter spring on the SP-01.  This is for 9MM 75 but found similar items when looking at 97B upgrades as well.

[KneverKnew]

For reduce DA/SA trigger pull, 13# Hammer Spring ($7), Extended Firing Pin with Spring ($25), and Firing Pin Retaining Pin ($5). 

I kept the original Firing Pin Block Plunger Spring on my P-01  (carry) and have the lighter spring on the SP-01.  This is for 9MM 75 but found similar items when looking at 97B upgrades as well.

So the items you listed will fit in the 97 without changing anything else?
My main concern is exactly what you mentioned. Reducing both trigger pulls while keeping it safe for carry if needed.

Concerning safe carry, what would be an acceptable safe carry condition. Only options I see would be the obvious loaded chamber, hammer down for DA first round shot. I usually carry my 1911 in condition one, hammer cocked and safety on. But this isn’t a 1911 and the manual safety is NOT very positive. I’d be afraid the safety could be accidentally turned off while carrying.

Any thoughts or experiences?

Is it safe to carry hammer down on loaded chamber or is half cock necessary?

[Alcoy]

My preferred carry method for my CZs is loaded and de-cocked (half-cock or quarter-cock).  Not sure of the exact technical term.  All my CZs have de-cockers on them, but I would be comfortable to carry one hammer cocked/safety on.  I used to carry 1911s - condition 1 and carry loaded glocks in the past.

The opinions above are my own and others might have different take and I respect those as well.

[hammer_fired]

I carry my 97B cocked and locked IWB in either a Vedder Light Tuck or a TTGunleather Slim XC. Never had a problem with the safety being bumped off. Both holsters have sweat shields, so the safety lever is covered. I also, on occasion, carry it in a M7 shoulder holster. Check out the sticky at the top of this forum for other holster options.

Note: I use Perry suspenders all the time, no matter what I'm carrying, from my 97B down to my CSX. Nice not having to cinch up my belt!

[tdogg]

For reduce DA/SA trigger pull, 13# Hammer Spring ($7), Extended Firing Pin with Spring ($25), and Firing Pin Retaining Pin ($5). 

I kept the original Firing Pin Block Plunger Spring on my P-01  (carry) and have the lighter spring on the SP-01.  This is for 9MM 75 but found similar items when looking at 97B upgrades as well.

So the items you listed will fit in the 97 without changing anything else?
My main concern is exactly what you mentioned. Reducing both trigger pulls while keeping it safe for carry if needed.

Concerning safe carry, what would be an acceptable safe carry condition. Only options I see would be the obvious loaded chamber, hammer down for DA first round shot. I usually carry my 1911 in condition one, hammer cocked and safety on. But this isn’t a 1911 and the manual safety is NOT very positive. I’d be afraid the safety could be accidentally turned off while carrying.

Any thoughts or experiences?

Is it safe to carry hammer down on loaded chamber or is half cock necessary?

So it depends on your intended benefit.  The CGW extended firing pin for the 97B/97BD along with a lower main spring will reduce the trigger pull without changing anything else.  It is a solid budget friendly choice.  The 97B firing pin is not the same as the 75B variants.  Make sure you get 97B specific parts.

To go any further, you should just purchase the Pro Package from CGW.  It is a simple solution that will transform your 97B trigger.  I should caution, once you start modifying the CZ action you will be ruined and all your CZ's will need to be reworked.

How to carry the firearm is a personal preference.  It is completely safe to carry locked and cocked, hammer decocked, and hammer down fully.  It has a firing pin block mechanism that should prevent discharge without pulling the trigger.  Personally, I'd carry it decocked but I'm not sure I would want to carry a 97BD (concealed or not).

Cheers,
Toby

[KneverKnew]

Many helpful comments here. Thank you. I will most likely do the simple trigger upgrade mentioned. Maybe to full kit later.
Still researching the holster options.
I feel better about safely carrying in either condition. Thank you.
I’m actually headed to the range now to shoot both the 97B and my 1911 side by side. Just to see the difference in accuracy. The 1911 is in 460 Rowland configuration but still shoots 45 acp just fine.

[KneverKnew]

For reduce DA/SA trigger pull, 13# Hammer Spring ($7), Extended Firing Pin with Spring ($25), and Firing Pin Retaining Pin ($5). 

Along with the listed items above, could the CGW replacement hammer be added without changing anything else for a crisper pull? Or does it require the full kit?

[tdogg]

For reduce DA/SA trigger pull, 13# Hammer Spring ($7), Extended Firing Pin with Spring ($25), and Firing Pin Retaining Pin ($5). 

Along with the listed items above, could the CGW replacement hammer be added without changing anything else for a crisper pull? Or does it require the full kit?

You'd be better off ordering the adjustable sear as well.  The CGW hammer advances the timing and either the sear will need to be modified to fit under the safety knob, the safety knob fitted to the sear, or an adjustable sear is purchased/installed.  The adjustable sear is the easiest option.  If you take too much material off trying to fit the parts then the safety operation could be compromised and you'll be purchasing parts to restore operation.

But yes the competition hammer can be installed stand alone and it will eliminate the majority of creep in the pull.  It will also lower the SA trigger pull noticeably.

Cheers,
Toby