Best Place To Order Complete Striker Assembly For P10C

[NETim]

I haven't been able to find a source for the entire assembly except on the Czech website. 

I don't need it at present but I like to have spares. 

I do have a tool steel striker on order but it's just a bare striker.   

Thanks!

[CDKJudoka]

Found one here.

https://www.abprototype.com/cz-usa-p-10-firing-pin-assembly/

[NETim]

Found one here.

https://www.abprototype.com/cz-usa-p-10-firing-pin-assembly/

Thanks!!!!

[RickFlorida]

Any chance we can buy Czech made ones though? This one says made in USA.  As a purist, I'd like to buy Czech made ones for Czech made CZ P10 C's for spares. Are they imported by anyone? (the parts)

[Whereisit]

Any chance we can buy Czech made ones though? This one says made in USA.  As a purist, I'd like to buy Czech made ones for Czech made CZ P10 C's for spares. Are they imported by anyone? (the parts)

Where does it say it was made in the USA?

[RickFlorida]

Any chance we can buy Czech made ones though? This one says made in USA.  As a purist, I'd like to buy Czech made ones for Czech made CZ P10 C's for spares. Are they imported by anyone? (the parts)

Where does it say it was made in the USA?

Good question.  When it says "CZ USA" I now realize they are referring to the brand.
 I get so confused on this stuff. It's so confusing to me that even the P10's that are entirely made in the Czech Republic have to be imported and basically rebranded as "CZ USA".

But just because it's CZ USA listed as the brand, how do we know if that part was made in Kansas City, or Czech Republic? Also.... that website actually makes gun parts and might have made the part but is listing what brand it replaces?

[Whereisit]

Any chance we can buy Czech made ones though? This one says made in USA.  As a purist, I'd like to buy Czech made ones for Czech made CZ P10 C's for spares. Are they imported by anyone? (the parts)

Where does it say it was made in the USA?

Good question.  When it says "CZ USA" I now realize they are referring to the brand.
 I get so confused on this stuff. It's so confusing to me that even the P10's that are entirely made in the Czech Republic have to be imported and basically rebranded as "CZ USA".

But just because it's CZ USA listed as the brand, how do we know if that part was made in Kansas City, or Czech Republic? Also.... that website actually makes gun parts and might have made the part but is listing what brand it replaces?

Honestly.... I don't care about all that. I just buy the gun and then shoot it. If it's a home defense or edc gun then I just leave it stock.

[RickFlorida]

Any chance we can buy Czech made ones though? This one says made in USA.  As a purist, I'd like to buy Czech made ones for Czech made CZ P10 C's for spares. Are they imported by anyone? (the parts)

Where does it say it was made in the USA?

Good question.  When it says "CZ USA" I now realize they are referring to the brand.
 I get so confused on this stuff. It's so confusing to me that even the P10's that are entirely made in the Czech Republic have to be imported and basically rebranded as "CZ USA".

But just because it's CZ USA listed as the brand, how do we know if that part was made in Kansas City, or Czech Republic? Also.... that website actually makes gun parts and might have made the part but is listing what brand it replaces?

Honestly.... I don't care about all that. I just buy the gun and then shoot it. If it's a home defense or edc gun then I just leave it stock.

Hmmm, so I guess I must be one of the weirdos that Youtubers talk about with CZ owners being like "hipsters".  Because to me... CZ's made in the Czech Republic are the "cats meow" and are better made than the Kansas City ones.   As a purists, I would want my Czech made CZ to remain stock like you said but also have all Czech made parts. Did you know the Kansas City made P10's don't have cold hammer forged barrels like the Czech ones?  If CZ USA is making the barrels differently in Kansas City, then I would suspect they are willing to cut corners on other parts too.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Yes CZ did use a different method for the US barrels but that process is no different than many other US made barrels on other brands and they are accurate and reliable. No one as yet has proven on method better than the other. one very distinct advantage is the US made barrels are supposed to be saami spec vs the cip overseas spec which should translate the the US barrels not being as short throated as the Czech barrels. This has been a bane for CZ owners since they first showed up here.

[RickFlorida]

Yes CZ did use a different method for the US barrels but that process is no different than many other US made barrels on other brands and they are accurate and reliable. No one as yet has proven on method better than the other. one very distinct advantage is the US made barrels are supposed to be saami spec vs the cip overseas spec which should translate the the US barrels not being as short throated as the Czech barrels. This has been a bane for CZ owners since they first showed up here.

Ah interesting, I'm very new to modern firearms. My background is collectible pistosl from WW2 and earlier. So there's a lot for me to learn but my understanding is it takes A LOT MORE upfront money/investment to create cold hammer forged barrels than simple button rifling or whatever they call it when they make none cold hammer forged barrels. (It takes a lot more tooling to make cold hammer forged barrels so it's more expensive upfront but then they can crank them out).

My thought process is that American companies are unwilling to invest in the tooling and cost. And it's disappointing to me that CZ is willing to let Kansas City made pistols be made differently.   I think that's wrong and I don't like it. So that's why I'm probably too obsessed with making sure my CZ pistols remain Czech Republic parts.

Another thing I wonder is if hardness test stamps are seen on the inside of as many Kansas City made CZ's compared to Czech Republic made CZ's.  I strongly believe there is more of a traditional craftsmanship that occurs in Czech Republic similar to what you see in Germany and Swiss shops.   High School aged students start working in factories and learn old school traditions of craftsmanship and it shows in their products. I have industrial jewelry tools from Czech and they of very high quality.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Yeah I don't think the "old world" craftmanship is as alive and well over there as you are hoping. Other than chf barrels CZ produces guns not much different than we do here. Slides are forged but steel frames are investment cast. The P10 line are plastic just like any plastic pistol today.
CZ is using MIM in many guns now just like everyone else does and while MIM done right is just  fine they may not be making those items themselves. Since you mention the Swiss I'll say phooey on them. I like high end watches but recent purchases from Breitling and Omega have fallen short by a mile as far as what they once were. Both brands made trips back to their respective service centers in the first year of ownership and neither has exhibited the stability in time keeping that they should. I get excuses from the service reps not answers. I have lesser brands that are performing at a higher level. so there's that.
I have plenty of criticism for quality in the US today but what goes on over there is no better today really. 
At any rate CZ-USA is the sole distributor of stock parts for CZ's and we are at the mercy of what they have on the shelf so if you need it and they have it they run the only game in town. Anyone selling stock CZ parts get them from CZ-USA. Cajun Gun Works does make a tool steel striker for the P10 line along with many fine products for other CZ pistols. CZ-Custom has some fine parts as well. Primary Machine makes some outstanding barrels so you might check them out. There's some fine craftsmanship going on right here as far as certain custom parts go.

[RickFlorida]

You make great points.  I trust you have more experience with moderns firearms.  For the last 20 years I only collected pistols that you don't to shoot. The P10C is my first polymer striker because I know of the quality of the fit and finish on the metal CZ pistols.

I believe you have good points that they are virtually the same since (kansas city vs Czech Rep.)  But I'm a very "fit and finish" snob due to how I was trained by older collectors.

If I had the coin, I'd love to take 5 P10's made in Kansas city and 5 from Czech and then measure the tolerances to see if they are about the same on average.
Then see if there's a difference.  I have modern Czech made industrial jewelry making tools and I was very impressed with the finish on the tooling. I have a very expensive English made one and I could not tell the difference. I'm talking about rolling mills and a metal stretching machine.  The hardness of the rolling mill has to be really high and I noticed the finish is amazing (which helps in leaving no marks).  None of my USA made stuff looks like that. But maybe for polymer strikers, there is not going to be differences so maybe you are right.  But I'd love to have a highly detailed comparison.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Here's an old thread from 2019 talking about the US vs Czech guns. Not as detailed as you would like but I don't think anyone has gone into detail with it. Keep in mind the rollout of the P10C was anything but stellar and that was before they made them here. I finally bought a pair this year but I wouldn't have considered one of the early guns with the issues they had. I couldn't pass them up at the price point they are at now. The definitely got the kinks ironed out at this point.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=103845.0

[RickFlorida]

Here's an old thread from 2019 talking about the US vs Czech guns. Not as detailed as you would like but I don't think anyone has gone into detail with it. Keep in mind the rollout of the P10C was anything but stellar and that was before they made them here. I finally bought a pair this year but I wouldn't have considered one of the early guns with the issues they had. I couldn't pass them up at the price point they are at now. The definitely got the kinks ironed out at this point.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=103845.0

Thank you!  That post was very informative actually.  I appreciate it.  The original posting person says the differences in fit and finish about the same and that he actually liked the outside finish of the slide in the USA made one better, so that was interesting. However, if you read on the second page, one of our members who seems to be very detail orientated like me said he noticed a lot more slop/travel in the trigger.  That would be a fit and finish issue I was suspecting from USA made ones. Plus everyone who looked at the barrels carefully said that the USA made barrels were a lot more rougher (I think they meant the inside of the barrel which could matter).

I would wager that while most P10'C's will still function and not be less reliable in terms of where they are from, the Czech made ones are slightly better quality control or tighter tolerances from what I'm reading.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

After my range session today with one of my 2023 Czech made P10C's I'd love to take you up on that wager. The warranty request is filled out and I'm waiting on a return label as I type this. The gun became an instant paperweight. I waited a long while to dive into the P10 line and to be honest I'm not a striker fired type anyway but I had hoped they had it on the straight and narrow. I really like the way the P10 handles but a hard failure in the first 500 rounds has me losing trust in both guns and neither will likely ever replace my PCR on my hip.