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Offline TEARLESSTOM

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Magazine Questions?
« on: May 18, 2024, 05:19:15 PM »
Hello everyone, my name is Tom. Been lurking for a while. I found this site while searching for some answers as to why my newly purchased pistol did not like to chamber my in spec. reloads.  I found a tremendous amount of helpful information by the way but I digress.

I have recently purchased my 2nd CZ. A  CZ75 Compact PCR Custom. I also have a P-09.

While shopping and from the forum here I notice that the most of the CZ75 Compact line show shipping with 14 round magazines.  Some occasionally will show 15 round magazines.  (Mine shipped with 2- 15 round magazines.)

I also notice that the P-01 shows it mostly ships with the 15 round magazine, and occasionally shows shipping with the 14 round magazine.

I also see that the RAMI ships with a 14 round magazine with the finger extension  which I would assume is the same 14 round magazine as used by the others.

So,  what gives,  why the difference, what is the differences,  isn't the grip the same on all of these? The CZ 75 Compact, The PCR, and the P-01,  and the magazines are interchangeable. If the length of the grip supports a 15 round magazine why limit it to 14?

Is one more reliable than the other. 14 vs 15?

I also noticed that for the P-09 which carries a 19 round mag, they made a 15 round mag as well.   WHY? The Magazine has to still be the same size as the 19 round to fit the gun so if you only want 15 rounds just put 15 in it. 

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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024, 09:48:13 PM »
Hello everyone, my name is Tom. Been lurking for a while. I found this site while searching for some answers as to why my newly purchased pistol did not like to chamber my in spec. reloads.  I found a tremendous amount of helpful information by the way but I digress.

I have recently purchased my 2nd CZ. A  CZ75 Compact PCR Custom. I also have a P-09.

While shopping and from the forum here I notice that the most of the CZ75 Compact line show shipping with 14 round magazines.  Some occasionally will show 15 round magazines.  (Mine shipped with 2- 15 round magazines.)

I also notice that the P-01 shows it mostly ships with the 15 round magazine, and occasionally shows shipping with the 14 round magazine.

I also see that the RAMI ships with a 14 round magazine with the finger extension  which I would assume is the same 14 round magazine as used by the others.

So,  what gives,  why the difference, what is the differences,  isn't the grip the same on all of these? The CZ 75 Compact, The PCR, and the P-01,  and the magazines are interchangeable. If the length of the grip supports a 15 round magazine why limit it to 14?

Is one more reliable than the other. 14 vs 15?

I also noticed that for the P-09 which carries a 19 round mag, they made a 15 round mag as well.   WHY? The Magazine has to still be the same size as the 19 round to fit the gun so if you only want 15 rounds just put 15 in it.


For decades, the standard for CZ Compact mags was 14 rounds. Then a couple of years ago MecGar (who makes most of CZ’s pistol mags) came out with an improved magazine with a new anti-friction coating and an improved spring (don’t know if the blue follower was an actual improvement) which managed to squeeze one more round reliably into the Compact mag tube. Now 15 round magazines are standard for CZ Compact pistols, and I would say that, at least for the MecGar-marked magazines, the 15 rounders are a definite improvement over the old 14-rd mags.

The Rami was discontinued a couple of years ago, so I imagine they’re just selling off the leftover Stock of 14-rd mags with the finger extension / mag sleeves attached. The sleeve works fine on the MecGar 15-rd mags, but fits a little tight, but the sleeves themselves are now hard to come by.

Good luck on finding 15 round CZ Compact mags right now!
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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2024, 06:18:39 AM »
Never saw a 15 round 9MM P09 magazine.  Some states do have a 15 round pistol magazine limit and S&W makes some full sized pistols (would normally have 17 rounds of 9MM) with 15 round 9MM magazines to be sold in those states.

CZ does the same when selling 10 round magazines for the CZ75 models that normally have 16, 17, 18 or 19 round magazines.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2024, 05:25:59 PM »
Never saw a 15 round 9MM P09 magazine.
I saw them at MagShack.com while looking at CZ mags. I didn't realize some states had limits other than the 10, but I guess that makes sense.

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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2024, 05:29:05 PM »
Never saw a 15 round 9MM P09 magazine.  Some states do have a 15 round pistol magazine limit and S&W makes some full sized pistols (would normally have 17 rounds of 9MM) with 15 round 9MM magazines to be sold in those states.

CZ does the same when selling 10 round magazines for the CZ75 models that normally have 16, 17, 18 or 19 round magazines.

So the difference is an improved spring and carrier. Good to know.    Thank You.

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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2024, 10:04:51 PM »
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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2024, 11:01:46 PM »
Never saw a 15 round 9MM P09 magazine.  Some states do have a 15 round pistol magazine limit and S&W makes some full sized pistols (would normally have 17 rounds of 9MM) with 15 round 9MM magazines to be sold in those states.

CZ does the same when selling 10 round magazines for the CZ75 models that normally have 16, 17, 18 or 19 round magazines.

So the difference is an improved spring and carrier. Good to know.    Thank You.

Not sure what you mean by the “carrier.” Are you thinking about the mag follower?

Anyway, the main improvement of the 15-rd MecGar mags is the spring and the anti-friction coating. The blue follower may also be an improvement as they seem to have a little more lubricity than the previous black ones.

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Re: Magazine Questions?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2024, 12:52:07 AM »
Yes .  Sorry wrong term.