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Offline Auslander

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P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« on: April 23, 2024, 06:30:38 PM »
Picked up a Henning Competition Magazine Upgrade kit Part# H-KM12 for the P10 19-round mag bodies. Comes with a MBX spring and follower (does not lock slide)

Easily loaded 24-rounds. Whether it allows for 24 plus 1 or even works will be tested tomorrow.

Found out the 21-round factory mags will not fit the gauge.

FYI if anyone is interested.


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Re: P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2024, 06:48:27 PM »
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Re: P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2024, 12:36:08 PM »
Reporting back:

Results were mixed and varied upon ammunition. 

My P10F will normally run Federal AE9FP 147 grain ammunition.  With the MBX spring and follower, the magazine would not load from an open slide (AE9FP).  The round tip would nose down and jam into the feed ramp.  If you loaded the weapon from a separate magazine and inserted the MBX equipped magazine (loaded to 24 rounds), generally, the magazine would hang on the feed ramp on the 3rd or 4th round. 

Next I tried my loads.  The projectile is a Precision Delta 124 gr FMJ V2 loaded to +/- 1.125".  Initially, I had some of the same issue noted above.  Out of 4 mags, I was about 50% reliable.

I then tried some PMC 115gr RN.  No issues running a full 24+1 for (50 rounds or 2 mags).

I then went back and ran my PD JHP loads and made it through a couple of magazines without issues. 

When I again tried to run the AE9FP, I had a malfunction in the middle of one magazine and on the 3rd or 4th round on the second. 

Basically, I ran out of ammunition and time.  At this point I cannot say one way or another if a few more compression cycles of the spring will help even things out.  If you run FMJ RN, you may have good luck.  I'll be trying more of my PD FMJ V2 today.

I've been running Grams springs and followers in my CZ 75 based magazines for a while now with great success.  I don't have the same confidence with these.

The good thing is the Henning's baseplate is compatible with the factory spring and follower out of the factory 21-round magazines.  At least that gives a reliable 140mm option.  Supposedly you can file down the legs on the factory follower to allow for 22-rounds.  For a C-class dope like me, its enough to have fun. 

On another note, the P10 has a rather steep feed ramp.  One of the reasons I started playing with this is because I've been eyeballing a DWX but don't want to drop that amount of money on something that I cannot feed with competition oriented magazines.  The DWX may have a less steep ramp angle that would be more tolerant of the MBX spring and follower.

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Re: P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2024, 02:27:04 PM »
I use the Henning base pads. I tried the MBX spring and follower kits and found them unreliable. I now use the factory spring and follower and trim the lower ears off of the follower. Only 22 rounds but 100% reliable.

And I know what you mean about the factory 21's not fitting the gauge.  Shooting open minor is not fun.
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Re: P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2024, 02:24:09 PM »
2nd Follow-up

Went back out to the range after leaving the spring compressed overnight.

Fired about 100 rounds of the PD V2 JHP rounds without any issues.

I then fired a couple of mags of the Fed AE9FP without stoppage.

If you decide to give them a try, I would recommend 10-15 compression cycles of the spring and/or leaving the mag loaded for a while to settle the spring. Save yourself some ammo.

If I start having issues, I’ll report back on this thread.


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Re: P10F/P-09/DWX Hennings 24-round 140mm magazine kit
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2024, 05:48:10 PM »
I use the Henning base pads. I tried the MBX spring and follower kits and found them unreliable. I now use the factory spring and follower and trim the lower ears off of the follower. Only 22 rounds but 100% reliable.

And I know what you mean about the factory 21's not fitting the gauge.  Shooting open minor is not fun.
Was finally able to use the doctored mag in a level 1 match this weekend.

The MBX spring choked…

Oh well, at least it’s a competition.

Factory spring and follower, no issues. In my case, 21 rounds is much better than not working at all. Going to shave the legs.

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