Updated P07 & P09

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

EDIT: I just noticed that they changed the front sight to a east/west dovetail from the older north/south type.

They not only changed the dovetail on the front sight the rear is different as well so sights won't interchange from the old models.

[CDKJudoka]

EDIT: I just noticed that they changed the front sight to a east/west dovetail from the older north/south type.

They not only changed the dovetail on the front sight the rear is different as well so sights won't interchange from the old models.

I wasn't sure if the rear dovetail was different or not. I will know once I get it from my FFL next week. I have zero self control.

[jwc007]

Was that link supposed to go to an anime clip?

Nope!  Correct Link edited in.

[thedude]

CZ-USA

P-09 C
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-09-c-nocturne/

P-09
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-09-f-nocturne/

So the CZ Shadow 2 Compact has been out for like a year and it's still not on the CZ-USA site, but the P-09 Nocturne has been out for a day and there it is! 

[Whereisit]

CZ-USA

P-09 C
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-09-c-nocturne/

P-09
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-09-f-nocturne/

So the CZ Shadow 2 Compact has been out for like a year and it's still not on the CZ-USA site, but the P-09 Nocturne has been out for a day and there it is! 

What are you talking about? It's been on the CZ USA website for as long as I can remember.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-shadow-2-compact/

[thedude]

What are you talking about? It's been on the CZ USA website for as long as I can remember.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-shadow-2-compact/

What I'm talking about is the CZ Shadow 2 Compact was released in the USA for nearly 9 months before it appeared on their site........at all.  Now if you go on there under Products>handguns>>view all, the S2C will still not show up.  The only way to view it is to click on the banner for the Shadow 2 Compact or by doing a search specifically for that model.  OTOH, the P-09 Nocturne was on there in a day, that's what I am talking about. 

https://cz-usa.com/product-category/handguns/

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

What I'm talking about is the CZ Shadow 2 Compact was released in the USA for nearly 9 months before it appeared on their site........at all.  Now if you go on there under Products>handguns>>view all, the S2C will still not show up.  The only way to view it is to click on the banner for the Shadow 2 Compact or by doing a search specifically for that model.  OTOH, the P-09 Nocturne was on there in a day, that's what I am talking about. 

https://cz-usa.com/product-category/handguns/

 Actually if you look at the CZ website the screwballs list the P-07C NOCTURNE as the P-09C NOCTURNE. The compact they have pictured for the P-07C even has P-09 rollmarked on it's slide. Who approves crap like that without even looking at it.

[thedude]

Actually if you look at the CZ website the screwballs list the P-07C NOCTURNE as the P-09C NOCTURNE. The compact they have pictured for the P-07C even has P-09 rollmarked on it's slide. Who approves crap like that without even looking at it.

I guess they are calling both new models the P-09 Nocturne.  So instead of having a P-07 they will have the P-09C Nocturne (formerly the P-07) and the P-09F Nocturne (formerly the P-09) 

I liked the original P-07, but I always wished the grip was more aggressive so hopefully these will feel better.  I do like how they carried the grip texture all the way up too. 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Actually if you look at the CZ website the screwballs list the P-07C NOCTURNE as the P-09C NOCTURNE. The compact they have pictured for the P-07C even has P-09 rollmarked on it's slide. Who approves crap like that without even looking at it.

I guess they are calling both new models the P-09 Nocturne.  So instead of having a P-07 they will have the P-09C Nocturne (formerly the P-07) and the P-09F Nocturne (formerly the P-09) 

I guess that's possible that they are dropping the P-07 rollmark but in the intro vid the guy from CZ called it the P-07C. Once they hit the shelves we'll know.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I guess that's possible that they are dropping the P-07 rollmark but in the intro vid the guy from CZ called it the P-07C. Once they hit the shelves we'll know.

Yep just saw some in stock on GB and they are calling the new compact the P-09C. Interesting that they did that.

[CDKJudoka]

Yep just saw some in stock on GB and they are calling the new compact the P-09C. Interesting that they did that.

It makes sense for them to use that naming convention going forward for their Polymers considering they use it for the P10 series already.

[AZ_GunGuy]

Picked up my P09-C today.  Haven't had a chance to take it to the range.  Notes thus far:

Works fine with a P07 holster designed for RMR cuts.
Older P10-C / P07 mags fit fine.  Even the 17rd with the +2 basepad.
The P09-C mags have a new basepad which won't fit older models.
I like the grip texture.

I paid 50 under MSRP, seems reasonable for two mags and a direct mount cut.

[Joe L]

Well, crud.  All I need is to follow a new CZ gun thread!  I've held off buying another firearm for a few years now, and my discretionary spending budget has been clobbered with new-fangled camera/lens purchases.  Maybe I can sneek in a P-09C for my birthday later this year.  That's the ticket! 

Joe   

[Gunnerdad80]

Well, crud.  All I need is to follow a new CZ gun thread!  I've held off buying another firearm for a few years now, and my discretionary spending budget has been clobbered with new-fangled camera/lens purchases.  Maybe I can sneek in a P-09C for my birthday later this year.  That's the ticket! 

Joe   

That’s the spirit!

[Rittmeister]

I would love to know if the longer slide/barrel of the full-size gun will fit/function on the compact frame. I've really enjoyed the possibilities of doing this with the P10-pattern guns, but to my knowledge the old P09 slide wouldn't function properly on the old P07 frame. I tried it years ago but I think the longer slide retracted too far into the compact frame, or something; it's been too long.

If they made the slides interchangeable this time I am definitely going to be picking up some new stuff...