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Offline liv4spd

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What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« on: October 28, 2024, 07:32:16 AM »
I heard many good words about the CGW upgrades, claiming that it is a different gun after installing the CGW package. What exactly are different?

Smooth actions, or lighter triggers, etc.? Thanks

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2024, 07:48:15 AM »
Smooth actions, or lighter triggers, etc.?

D. All of the above !

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2024, 03:25:31 PM »
I’m a huge fan of CGW.  They performed their Pro package on 3 of my metals CZs- simply amazing transformation of the trigger.

I also installed their ultra lite kit on my 75b stainless and P07.  I’m impressed by the ultra lite kit, as it reduces the trigger pull substantially but it doesn’t reach the standard of the pro package that reduces trigger pull, improves reset, makes the trigger crisp.

Overall you can’t go wrong w/ CGW
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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2024, 07:59:01 PM »
I also have three Pro package - Shadow 2, SP-01, and P-01.  The largest improvement was the Shadow.  The stock wasn’t smooth.  I tended to pull shots to the left anticipating.  Plus trigger was heavy - about 8 lbs DA and 3.7 SA.  Afterwards the trigger was perfect - 5.7 DA and 2.7 SA and without any hesitation in the action.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2024, 06:59:35 AM »
Call me weird, but one of the main reasons I prefer DA/SA guns is my love for the heavy trigger. Now, I'm not sure if I should get CGW upgrades at all.

Smooth actions, or lighter triggers, etc.?

D. All of the above !

And, they are simply all-around good people to deal with.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2024, 08:23:49 AM »
Call me weird, but one of the main reasons I prefer DA/SA guns is my love for the heavy trigger. Now, I'm not sure if I should get CGW upgrades at all.

Smooth actions, or lighter triggers, etc.?

D. All of the above !

And, they are simply all-around good people to deal with.

CZ's are accurate and reliable as they come so then if you are satisfied with your gun(s) as they are then you leave them alone. The upgrades are available to those of us who want something more and they take these guns to a higher level. Much like modding a car or motorcycle or anything else that one would want more performance from.
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Offline Joe Willy

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2024, 10:07:41 AM »
Smooth actions, or lighter triggers, etc.?

D. All of the above !

And, they are simply all-around good people to deal with.
CZ pistols don't need any improvements. They perform well stock. If you want to spend lots of $$$ of needless upgrades, go for it. I'd rather put my money into more ammo.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2024, 01:05:45 PM »
CZ pistols don't need any improvements. They perform well stock. If you want to spend lots of $$$ of needless upgrades, go for it. I'd rather put my money into more ammo.

Some models are excellent out of the box. They have these upgrades already and their price reflects that. Some models are striker fired and have excellent triggers out of the box. The original 75series has a Service grade trigger because that is how they were designed decades ago. Upgrading these models with CGW or CZC parts or having them upgraded will definitely improve them by leaps and bounds. You’re right they do work but once you try a modified gun you’ll have a hard time being satisfied with old Betsy.
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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2024, 01:54:00 AM »
Someone mentioned that I could also just get the disconnector, lifter arm, and extended firing pin. That way, I can maintain my trigger pull. Does that sound about right?

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2024, 05:05:42 AM »
Someone mentioned that I could also just get the disconnector, lifter arm, and extended firing pin. That way, I can maintain my trigger pull. Does that sound about right?

You haven't mentioned what exactly you want to improve so it's hard to say what you could or should do. You can reduce the trigger reach by up to 5mm by installing the reach reduction kit. You can also shorten the reset with the short reset kit. Neither of which will change the SA or DA pull weight.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2024, 06:12:51 AM »
Thanks. My goals are:
1. Smoother actions
2. Shorter resets

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2024, 10:20:17 AM »
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CZ pistols don't need any improvements. They perform well stock. If you want to spend lots of $$$ of needless upgrades, go for it. I'd rather put my money into more ammo.

I assumed the same thing until I tried someone’s else’s Cajunized Shadow 2.  I traded back and forth between my stock and theirs for about 50 rounds with each.  The difference was amazing and definitely worth it to me.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2024, 05:04:57 AM »
Is it worth it? Absolutely. Super crisp and light trigger, shorter reset, hammer and trigger just feel much more high end. The lighter decocker spring makes a noticeable difference in decocking too.

Is it worth it to DIY? In my opinion, no. It was a total pain and the whole time I was worried I would bleep something up. It turned out fine but CGW really doesn’t charge that much for the install. I would let the pros handle it next time. I had a lot of fun installing an M carbo kit and polishing my P09, but the CGW kit is straight up tedious to DIY.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2024, 07:43:58 AM »
Is it worth it to DIY? In my opinion, no. It was a total pain and the whole time I was worried I would bleep something up. It turned out fine but CGW really doesn’t charge that much for the install. I would let the pros handle it next time. I had a lot of fun installing an M carbo kit and polishing my P09, but the CGW kit is straight up tedious to DIY.
Well it just depends on your comfort level and mechanical ability. Many here have done the kits themselves with great results. I've done the full CGW Pro Package on 7 of my metal framed guns 6 of which are decockers. You also learn from doing and that is worth every minute spent.

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Re: What's the essence of CGW upgrades?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2024, 01:59:25 AM »
I think I will order the kit minus the springs. I like heavy triggers :-)

Can't imagine CZ handguns are great, except that they need upgrades right from the factory.