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Offline bubbas4570

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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2024, 12:43:17 AM »

In the future monitor your powder charges much more closely. That is where your problem began an ended in this situation.

Already done, in my mind/future reload plans.  Progressive press is going to be not used, and going back to the old ways of single stage.

This is not my first rodeo with squibs (mine, others, and factory) but second that I have had damage done to a firearm with.

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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2024, 12:54:08 AM »
For my last chapter in this story:

The barrel package was scanned in on Tuesday as being delivered to my front porch/door.  No package at my house/mailbox.  Not the first time the USPS has messed up at this house for me with a firearms part(s) package.  Phone call made to local office, managed to get the main supervisor, found out the scanning was GPS'd at another house on a different block in my neighborhood.  Obtained the address (different house number/different block) and asked the occupant if she had found my package on her doorstep.  No was the answer, relayed that the next day to USPS office, and they were going to do whatever they do to retrieve said package. 

Needless to say the package mysteriously arrived in my mailbox, slightly opened on one end, but everything was fine inside.  Package was a SFRB, so it was easy to see if it was opened up.

Barrel installed into slide, everything put back together, and the B6 functions just as it did previously performed safety checks, without being able to live fire.  I have no reservations with the new barrel being able to perform just like the original.

As jwc007 said, the SAR firearms perform above their price point.

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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2024, 04:56:49 AM »

In the future monitor your powder charges much more closely. That is where your problem began an ended in this situation.

Already done, in my mind/future reload plans.  Progressive press is going to be not used, and going back to the old ways of single stage.

This is not my first rodeo with squibs (mine, others, and factory) but second that I have had damage done to a firearm with.

Well I've been using a progressive (Dillon XL750) for several years now without any issue with squibs. I visually inspect each case after the charge die for powder. I've found being able to see into the case clearly helps so I added an LED light strip to the press and what a difference that makes. https://kmssquared.com/products/ufo-650-reloading-press-light-for-dillon-xl650-xl750

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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2024, 08:25:25 AM »
On a reloading note, when I am loading 9mm on my old Dillon XL650 Press, just before I seat any Bullet, I glance down the Case for Powder level, as I go to seat the Bullet.

Looking into the case is not always an easy task, but most reloading press designs rotate the cartridge case to the left side during the fill process to allow powder level inspection to occur. IOW, they believe that the user is right-handed and therefore standing more to the left side of the press.

Unless you operate your press left-handed, the root cause nearly always boils down to in-press lighting. Basically, you're trying to see a dark substance inside a deep, dark hole. The solution is therefore in-press lighting.

I have tried several systems before finding a company called KMS Squared. Now I swear by them. Don't even look at cheaper systems.
https://kmssquared.com/collections



They make their lights on self-adhesive flexible circuit board material, which you adhere to the underside of your press head. When turned ON every case is BRIGHTLY lit up like it was a movie star on opening night. I cannot recommend this solution highly enough. I've had a system installed on my XL650 for 10 years with zero issues. The link will take you to a page that shows they have systems that work on most common press systems, not just Dillon.



Hope this helps.
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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2024, 08:29:42 AM »

In the future monitor your powder charges much more closely. That is where your problem began an ended in this situation.

Already done, in my mind/future reload plans.  Progressive press is going to be not used, and going back to the old ways of single stage.

This is not my first rodeo with squibs (mine, others, and factory) but second that I have had damage done to a firearm with.

Well I've been using a progressive (Dillon XL750) for several years now without any issue with squibs. I visually inspect each case after the charge die for powder. I've found being able to see into the case clearly helps so I added an LED light strip to the press and what a difference that makes. https://kmssquared.com/products/ufo-650-reloading-press-light-for-dillon-xl650-xl750

Mine was a Hornady LnL Ammoplant setup.  I found that there are just enough hiccups in this press that it makes things "interesting", lets just leave it that way. 

I tend to like to run it too fast, I have it too high up to easily check inside cases, I no longer prime on the press for anything (too many priming problems with any case), I could list more if it really didn't matter. :P .......  Yup some problems are of my own making, some are design imperfections from factory, I don't care anymore, I just won't use it=those problems solved.  My tools are more valuable to me than having speed loading over single stage speeds, and that is something that I CAN make myself change.

Also, I gave up on trying to make some cast boolits work in my pistols.  That is one more problem solved here. (thumbs up, if I could put one in)  Back to buying either jacketed or plated for me.

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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2024, 08:38:07 AM »
Let's put it this way, I should have stayed with my old RCBS turret press, and that would have taken care of everything for me.  That was set up to make things about as fast as "I" should go.  Not saying that I am retarded, but my reloading speeds should be. O0

Like I said, the Hornady system leaves just enough to make it not very effective for me.  I take this blame, as I have read that some can make the LnL progressive work flawlessly for them, this just isn't happening for me....owned the press for at least 6 years now.


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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2024, 08:45:34 AM »
I tend to like to run it too fast, I have it too high up to easily check inside cases, I no longer prime on the press for anything (too many priming problems with any case), I could list more if it really didn't matter. :P .......  Yup some problems are of my own making, some are design imperfections from factory, I don't care anymore, I just won't use it=those problems solved.  My tools are more valuable to me than having speed loading over single stage speeds, and that is something that I CAN make myself change.

• People either love or hate the LNL AP. It's a great press with a long list of factory redesigns, updates, and known issues. In all fairness, I don't think the "best press" has been designed yet. They all have some quirks.

• As far a press height, the op lever grip should be at the same level as your right shoulder. This sets up up for less shoulder/ back pain, and carpal tunnel issues in the future and allows you the correct height (or very close) to see into the cases.

• You must adjust your reloading bench height for your own health and safety reasons. (The safety part has already been proven to you.) Luckily for you there's no buying involved, just some calculations, measurements and sawing. (We can discuss other aspects of reloading bench design and building if you like.)

• Most novices raised on YouTube videos do try to load too fast. Realize that reloading is not about extreme speed, but extreme quality. So slow it down. Go over to Ultimate Reloader. He shows the correct speed in all his videos.  https://ultimatereloader.com/

Hope this helps.
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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2024, 04:13:08 PM »
Wobbly- thanks for the light link - exactly what I’ve been looking for!
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Re: B6 oopsie....
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2024, 06:34:44 PM »
Wobbly- thanks for the light link - exactly what I’ve been looking for!

Buried in the Stickies atop the Ammunition, Questions, and Handloading Techniques sub-forum is this little gem...

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85603.0
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