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Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2024, 06:07:31 PM »

CZ certainly has their issues at this point but I've had sorry experiences with S&W, Ruger, Sig and recently Beretta. I can't heap praise on anyone for stellar service these days. If you're lucky enough to get an issue resolved quickly and painlessly from anyone you're lucky period.
And by the way if you've seen the recommendation to call and you have no doubt a call would get you an answer then WHY have you not called??

I’ll add Walther to that list.  The slide froze up on my Walther 22.  I sent it to Walter for repair.  It took ten weeks for the US office to get a new slide.
HAHA! I hear ya. I forgot about my Walther mess a few years back. I bought one of their highly touted re-issued PPK/S and it went back 4 times for failure to feed problems. They never fixed and I got free of that clunker.

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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2024, 06:14:16 PM »
I’ve been trying to decide whether I should put any more money into it.

A few weeks ago when I emailed them I figured I’d try a shorter front sight. Then i figured I’d probably wind up with a green dot anyway and thought about getting an adaptor plate instead.
So what exactly is the issue with your gun?

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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2024, 06:39:08 PM »
POI is below my POA. (emphasis on "my")

Because I'm not in love with the gun and am fairly likely to trade it away I'm reluctant to file the front sight.  I sent CZ-USA an email giving the height of the front sight above the slide I that measured, asking if they had shorter front sights, or if not, could I buy a spare to file down.

As I mentioned, there has been no reply to the email sent to the address they have listed on their website in nearly a month. That doesn't inspire confidence in CZ USA.

Nor do the threads I've read here about other's issues getting parts over the past several months.

The other guns I shoot frequently are a Ruger MkII,  a MkIII, 10/22, and a Glock 34.3

I was very surprised when Ruger performed free repairs on the 20+ year old MkII & 10/22's that I got used, with ~10 day turnarounds. I assumed other firearm mfgrs would do the same.



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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2024, 08:20:33 PM »
This parts scarcity is one of the “enhancements”  that follows CZUB putting Colt Management ( “The Kings of Bankruptcy”) in charge of running CZ-USA!!


Oh, please. Your singular thoughts on the subject are well-known. Please, give it up.

The parts issue couldn't possibly be caused by the largest war in Europe since 1940. There cannot be any other reason or mitigating circumstance.


Then why are people here getting parts readily on the internet from places like Estonia, Lithuania, Italy, and the Czech Republic, etc. with nothing available from CZ-USA right here at home in the largest firearms market in the world?

These European CZ vendors are a lot closer to the war zone than the US, so it would stand to reason that European-sourced parts would go to nearby Ukraine first. So to say that the Uke War is the cause for the dearth of parts coming stateside — to the largest and richest gun market on the planet — makes no sense. After all, Europe has an immediate and vested interest in stopping Russia in Ukraine so that the Russians don’t roll right into their countries. Yet these parts are readily available on the interweb from Europe, which has very limited civilian gun ownership.

The problem is, US customers risk confiscation
and fines from the ATF and US Customs for importing foreign-sourced gun parts via the web without an import license. Obviously, Colt (Mis) Management is doing a lousy job of providing CZ parts to the lucrative US
market.
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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2024, 08:47:31 PM »
POI is below my POA. (emphasis on "my")

Because I'm not in love with the gun and am fairly likely to trade it away I'm reluctant to file the front sight.  I sent CZ-USA an email giving the height of the front sight above the slide I that measured, asking if they had shorter front sights, or if not, could I buy a spare to file down.
As I mentioned, there has been no reply to the email sent to the address they have listed on their website in nearly a month. That doesn't inspire confidence in CZ USA.
I was very surprised when Ruger performed free repairs on the 20+ year old MkII & 10/22's that I got used, with ~10 day turnarounds. I assumed other firearm mfgrs would do the same.
CZ Custom does have many front sight options that will fit the P10. The P10 front sight is the same as the P-07/09 front sight.
Getting a 10 day turn around from Ruger is great but it also means you caught them at a slow time. That's generally not the norm from anyone. You know what they say when you assume.

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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2024, 09:57:35 AM »
POI is below my POA. (emphasis on "my")

Because I'm not in love with the gun and am fairly likely to trade it away I'm reluctant to file the front sight.  I sent CZ-USA an email giving the height of the front sight above the slide I that measured, asking if they had shorter front sights, or if not, could I buy a spare to file down.

As I mentioned, there has been no reply to the email sent to the address they have listed on their website in nearly a month. That doesn't inspire confidence in CZ USA.

Nor do the threads I've read here about other's issues getting parts over the past several months.

The other guns I shoot frequently are a Ruger MkII,  a MkIII, 10/22, and a Glock 34.3

I was very surprised when Ruger performed free repairs on the 20+ year old MkII & 10/22's that I got used, with ~10 day turnarounds. I assumed other firearm mfgrs would do the same.


Try this, available is several heights or you could file to where you need.

https://dawsonprecision.com/sight-for-cz-p-10-c-pistols-black-front-by-dawson-precision/

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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2024, 10:41:14 AM »
Thanks, Born2vette!

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2024, 03:29:21 PM »
So it appears that CZ-USA's parts gatekeeper status is the problem. Kinda doesn't inspire a lot of confidence on my ability to repair my pistol(s) and replace worn parts.
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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2024, 11:32:32 AM »
I’ll add Walther to that list.  The slide froze up on my Walther 22.  I sent it to Walter for repair.  It took ten weeks for the US office to get a new slide.
HAHA! I hear ya. I forgot about my Walther mess a few years back. I bought one of their highly touted re-issued PPK/S and it went back 4 times for failure to feed problems. They never fixed and I got free of that clunker.
Y'all are not alone.  I have a 40S&W PPQ that I sent back four times because it would sometimes fail to feed.  They tried to blame the ammo even though I was using an assortment of factory ammo that met the requirements in the owner's manual.  The last time I sent it in, they said that I'd have to pay them for gunsmithing and return shipping before they'd ship it back.  Since an unreliable carry pistol is as useless as a man's tits, I just didn't do anything.  A couple of months later, the PPQ showed up at my house.  I guess they gave up on holding it hostage.  If anyone wants an incredibly accurate 40S&W pistol with an awesome trigger that's unreliable, it's for sale.

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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2024, 08:05:49 PM »
Y'all are not alone.  I have a 40S&W PPQ that I sent back four times because it would sometimes fail to feed.  They tried to blame the ammo even though I was using an assortment of factory ammo that met the requirements in the owner's manual.  The last time I sent it in, they said that I'd have to pay them for gunsmithing and return shipping before they'd ship it back.  Since an unreliable carry pistol is as useless as a man's tits, I just didn't do anything.  A couple of months later, the PPQ showed up at my house.  I guess they gave up on holding it hostage.  If anyone wants an incredibly accurate 40S&W pistol with an awesome trigger that's unreliable, it's for sale.


I just fixed my mom's PPK with a lighter recoil spring.  Somebody cut off coils from the original and it wasn't strong enough anymore.  It wasn't feeding nearly every shot.  The slide would hang up as the cartridge base engaged the extractor.  Wolff springs to the rescue, I went with a 17lb recoil spring and it is running again.  I had to regulate the sights as it was hitting 3-4 inches left at 10 yards but other than that it was fairly accurate.  My RAMI is more accurate but that wasn't fair, I was shooting reloads through the RAMI and Winchester white box through the PPK.

Cheers,
Toby
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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2025, 05:05:05 AM »
I just fixed my mom's PPK with a lighter recoil spring.  Somebody cut off coils from the original and it wasn't strong enough anymore.  It wasn't feeding nearly every shot.  The slide would hang up as the cartridge base engaged the extractor.  Wolff springs to the rescue, I went with a 17lb recoil spring and it is running again.  I had to regulate the sights as it was hitting 3-4 inches left at 10 yards but other than that it was fairly accurate.  My RAMI is more accurate but that wasn't fair, I was shooting reloads through the RAMI and winchester white box through the PPK.

Cheers,
Toby

Wish mine was that simple but it was new and early production and had a tolerance issue with the chamber. I had a pair of S&W version PPK/S years ago and they were honestly better built than the actual new Walther built models and reliable as well.
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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2025, 03:46:08 PM »
One  issue I've found is turnover at the Colt/CZ Group. Apparently there are people being moved around rapidly in their new company. I do hope they stabilize this year.

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2025, 05:58:29 PM »
One  issue I've found is turnover at the Colt/CZ Group. Apparently there are people being moved around rapidly in their new company. I do hope they stabilize this year.

At one point, over a year ago, the entire parts shipping department at CZ-USA walked off the job.

From the continuing parts shortages, it doesn’t appear that Colt Management is doing much of anything at all to right the ship.
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Re: CZ-USA again
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2025, 10:03:44 PM »
And yet I called cz customer service, asked for a part and it was at my door in less then a week. Free of charge.

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2025, 10:29:54 PM »
And yet I called cz customer service, asked for a part and it was at my door in less then a week. Free of charge.

Well, that’s definitely an anomaly these days. Most folks here can’t even find their desired parts in stock at CZ-USA, let alone get their parts free of charge and delivered promptly.

That sounds like a hell of a business model for COLT-cz: don’t stock / sell most of the parts that customers are clamoring for, and when you do have a few parts in stock, promptly send them free of charge to the customer,  including shipping & handling! Not surprising though, considering Colt’s history of near perpetual bankruptcy.

What part was it?
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