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Offline Hamilton99

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Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« on: January 22, 2025, 04:00:27 AM »
Hello, what sight picture is in CZ SP01 for 25m, combat sight, center sight or 6 o`clock sight?




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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2025, 08:31:09 AM »
Since the energy of the ammo you use determines the amount of muzzle rise, I suggest you to take a mag of your favorite ammo and 4 or 5 new targets to the range. Try all 3 sight pictures and determine which one works best for you.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2025, 09:50:11 AM »
I have a plan to buy brand new sp01 with nigdy sights and I want to change sight to adjustable set if stock sights were set for combat sight picture or central sight picture. I was thinking that there is somebody who use this pistol for sport shooting for 25m and is aiming under black center.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2025, 07:21:38 AM »
The ammo you choose to use can also change the point of impact (POI) on the target.

There's no way to know where any ammo is going to hit the target till you try it.  Then you adjust where you aim to put the bullets where you want them or you buy different sights.  You can buy shorter/taller front sights to change elevation.  If it's a left/right issue you can move the rear sight left/right to correct for it.  Some pistols seem to more the POI around more for an ammo change than others.  Guns are funny.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2025, 08:08:54 AM »
I have a plan to buy brand new SP01 with night sights and I want to change sight to adjustable set if stock sights were set for combat sight picture or central sight picture. I was thinking that there is somebody who uses this pistol for sport shooting for 25m and is aiming under black center.


That would be me.

But I shoot my own ammo exclusively. And the point of impact (POI) of any ammo is directly related to the weight and acceleration of the bullet. Therefore, your ammo is not going to hit the target where my ammo hits. So the only thing to do is to setup the gun for your preference and go shoot it with your ammo.

Then change the front site height to bring the POI where you like it.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2025, 12:47:31 PM »
I always setup my guns to shoot the center sight picture.  If they have fixed sights, I will purchase and install the rear sight of choice first (generally a blacked out competition style serrated sight).  Then go shoot the gun with the ammo I plan on shooting (124gr most likely) and get the impact shift.  I then purchase the right front sight (generally a fiber optic) to correct the point of aim to match the point of impact.  This is all assuming you don't want to install an adjustable rear sight.

I zero all my competition guns at 25yds standing freestyle (unsupported).  I expect a sub 3 inch group when shooting for accuracy, so I don't have stringent standards.

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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2025, 07:12:27 AM »
I always setup my guns to shoot the center sight picture.  If they have fixed sights, I will purchase and install the rear sight of choice first (generally a blacked out competition style serrated sight).  Then go shoot the gun with the ammo I plan on shooting (124gr most likely) and get the impact shift.  I then purchase the right front sight (generally a fiber optic) to correct the point of aim to match the point of impact.  This is all assuming you don't want to install an adjustable rear sight.

I zero all my competition guns at 25yds standing freestyle (unsupported).  I expect a sub 3 inch group when shooting for accuracy, so I don't have stringent standards.

Cheers,
Toby

Threse days, with anything I have, I'd be pretty darned happy with 3" at 25 yds.  Congratulations buddy.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2025, 09:54:48 AM »
I received a response from the manufacturer:

CZ 75 SP-01 and SP-01 Shadow were always set at 25 m where point of aim = point of impact.

mystery solved  ;D
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2025, 02:34:33 PM »
I received a response from the manufacturer:

CZ 75 SP-01 and SP-01 Shadow were always set at 25 m where point of aim = point of impact.

mystery solved  ;D

Seems they used to use S&B ammo.  Buy/try different ammo and you'll likely get different results.
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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2025, 10:29:04 AM »
I received a response from the manufacturer:

CZ 75 SP-01 and SP-01 Shadow were always set at 25 m where point of aim = point of impact.

mystery solved  ;D

Do yourself a favor and go to the range with a box of 115gr, 124gr, and 147gr ball ammo.  Shoot each as accurately as you can aiming the same way (hold center of target) for each and see what the target says.  You'll get to feel the different recoils of each and see which grain ammo your gun prefers.  Plus you will see how each doesn't hit the same point of impact.

There is no one sights for all ammo solution unless you get an adjustable rear sight.

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Re: Sight picture in CZ SP01, no-Shadow
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2025, 10:01:01 AM »
I received a response from the manufacturer:

CZ 75 SP-01 and SP-01 Shadow were always set at 25 m where point of aim = point of impact.

mystery solved  ;D

True. You got a "response", but it is not an "answer".

What you got was the "go away and quit bothering us" response. Prove this to yourself in 5 minutes by shooting 2 different types of ammo at the same target.

Meanwhile you continue to ignore honest and helpful insights from people who have shot thousands of rounds at thousands of targets.

Here's a 79gr bullet shooting low...


Here's a 71gr bullet at the same exact distance, exact same gun, shooting on target....
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