Are more OR versions coming?

[Atomic Punk]

Has any one heard any news about Optic Ready versions for non-Shadow CZ75s?

...or will CZ just limp along leaving the old models unchanged until sales drop off and they're discontinued, like they did with the Phantom and CZ97? 

They did modernize the DWX design to make it OR, and it seems like a no brainer, but it sure looks like the focus is on new plastic and the competition models only.

[Terry G]

The polymers seem to be taking over,  I can say that at least they are CZ Polymers so naturally they are much better. Seriously, I'm impressed with the P10C and I have a P-09 Nocturne on order.

[MeatAxe]

Well, of course CZ won’t offer an OR option for their legacy CZ75 and CZ75 Compact lines — that they built their company and reputation on  — that would make entirely too much sense!

We’ll just have to buy more CZ75s and spend extra time and money getting them machined for optics. But it’ll be worth it in the long run.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Well, of course CZ won’t offer an OR option for their legacy CZ75 and CZ75 Compact lines — that they built their company and reputation on  — that would make entirely too much sense!

We’ll just have to buy more CZ75s and spend extra time and money getting them machined for optics. But it’ll be worth it in the long run.

I'm glad they've left the original versions the way they are. There is a decocking  and OR ready version of the Shadow 2 in the pipeline. Maybe if you spent more time reading instead of complaining you'd know that.

[Terry G]

I don't want optics on my CZ's!  All of mine shoot fine with the sights CZ gave them from my first CZ 82 to my latest CZ P-09C Nocturne.

[MeatAxe]

Well, of course CZ won’t offer an OR option for their legacy CZ75 and CZ75 Compact lines — that they built their company and reputation on  — that would make entirely too much sense!

We’ll just have to buy more CZ75s and spend extra time and money getting them machined for optics. But it’ll be worth it in the long run.

I'm glad they've left the original versions the way they are. There is a decocking  and OR ready version of the Shadow 2 in the pipeline. Maybe if you spent more time reading instead of complaining you'd know that.

Most of my handguns are DA / SA Compact and Sub Compact carry pistols, and decockers rather than safety models. Even if CZ came out with a OR decocker version of the Shadow 2 Compact, it still doesn’t have a firing pin block, which to me is a no-go on a EDC pistol. Also, that gun is going to retail for at least $1,450.00 compared to @ $650 for a P-01. So would it be worth an extra $800 to get an OR decocker CZ Compact (without a firing pin block)? Why not just offer a factory OR version of the P-01 for a couple hundred bucks more?

I mean, I’m sure the fancy grip, etc. and the bling-bling factor of the Shadow 2 are nice and all, but these days I’d rather spend the extra $$$ on ammo.

[MeatAxe]

I don't want optics on my CZ's!  All of min shoot fine with the sights CZ gave them from my first CZ 82 to my latest CZ P-09C Nocturne.

Well, by all means, do not avail yourself to the technological leap forward of handgun optics.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Well, by all means, do not avail yourself to the technological leap forward of handgun optics.

It really bothers you that someone might like something different than you doesn't it? They really are no great leap forward just a new iteration of the old laser sights and scopes from decades ago. I tried a couple rentals with rd sights and personally have no interest but if others like them then to each his own.

[Whereisit]

Cz, like HK, doesn't seem interested to optic cut their legacy guns. HK offers it on the VP9, cc9 and soon to come sfp9cc. None of their hammer fired guns has the option.

Though why should they? The guns sell as is. Every day I see multiple posts on the internet of people buying cz metal frames and HKs. Can't keep them on the shelf.

[MeatAxe]

I handled a P-09 C Nocturne at one my LGSs today. While trigger was on par with a P-01 (and certainly much better than my HK P30sk, which has a horrible DA pull), (to me) the Nocturne just didn’t FEEL as good in the hand as a metal frame CZ75. Though you can futz with the interchangeable back strap grips (but no grip panels), it just doesn’t have the grip profile / ergonomics that are universally loved on the CZ75 and its clones by the majority of people who try them.

Obviously parts are not interchangeable between the CZ75 and the P-07 / 09, but for some stupid reason, the P-07 / P-09 aren’t fully compatible with the mags the CZ75 / clones have used for decades. So if you’ve accumulated a bunch of CZ75 mags over the years, they  may not quite fit right or function in the P-07 / 09.

The only advantage the Nocturne has over the CZ75 is that it’s OR. But as far as I’m concerned, that’s not enough to give it the nod over the CZ75, even if I have to go to the time and expense to get it milled for an optic. YMMV…

[Atomic Punk]

Well, of course CZ won’t offer an OR option for their legacy CZ75 and CZ75 Compact lines — that they built their company and reputation on  — that would make entirely too much sense!

We’ll just have to buy more CZ75s and spend extra time and money getting them machined for optics. But it’ll be worth it in the long run.

I'm glad they've left the original versions the way they are. There is a decocking  and OR ready version of the Shadow 2 in the pipeline. Maybe if you spent more time reading instead of complaining you'd know that.

I am very interested in the decocker compact Shadow but wish it was RMR pattern. If it is cut for the Holosun K, it isn't very different from my cajunized milled P-01--as Meataxe pointed out.   

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I am very interested in the decocker compact Shadow but wish it was RMR pattern. If it is cut for the Holosun K, it isn't very different from my cajunized milled P-01--as Meataxe pointed out.

Actually there are enough differences to set it apart from the P-01. The finish is better on the Shadow. Nitride is worth a alot in terms of wear resistance. The Shadow has a far superior trigger to the standard CZ and if they can retain a good feel on the Shadow 2 Carry even with the addition of the firing pin block then it won't need any additional work in that area. The Shadow 2 models I've handled thus far simply don't need CGW parts they are top notch as is. To be clear EVERY CZ I own at this point has CGW Pro Packages but to be able to buy a CZ that doesn't need trigger work right out of the gate would be nice. The only downside I see right now is they went to a transverse mounted front sight which will take some time for the aftermarket to catch up in terms of replacements. I have no idea what optic they are cut for or if they use adapter plates like many others so we'll have to wait on that one. I was honestly ready to grab a Shadow 2 when my lgs told me the carry model was in the pipeline. I'm going to wait till they come out and give it a hard look then decide between the 2.

[Lock-n-load]

Why even consider a plastic Cz meat ax when all steel is so much more superior?🤣🤣

[MeatAxe]

Why even consider a plastic Cz meat ax when all steel is so much more superior?🤣🤣

Actually, considering compact and subcompact carry pistols, I prefer alloy to plastic. Each are basically equivalent in weight, but plastic is bulkier. Also, your dog is liable to use your plastic pistol as a chew toy.

I prefer alloy to steel because steel is just too friggin heavy to lug around compared to alloy. A steel pistol in the pocket will de-pants you!

It’s really quite simple: for carry pistols, alloy rules!!

[Terry G]

I don't want optics on my CZ's!  All of min shoot fine with the sights CZ gave them from my first CZ 82 to my latest CZ P-09C Nocturne.

Well, by all means, do not avail yourself to the technological leap forward of handgun optics.

I don't see it as a "leap forward" as many do, I'll grant you that.  I learned on original sights and instructed on original sights as a Federal Firearms Instructor for eighteen years. I have a Sig P320 with an optic so I'm not speaking from no experience. My carry guns are a CZ P-01 and a CZ 97b. Both have night sights but that's the only modification. I know the contestant's of the shooting games swear by them but to me they are fine of you like them but I have no need of them.  Your post indicates you MUST have them!  Go ahead.  I don't see the need.