question about firing pin block????????

[Slidestop]

Perhaps Walt could answer this question.  Being of advanced age and memory capacity I sometimes lose and/or misplace things, like grip screws, roll pins,firing pin blocs (safetys)etc.  If I have lost (misplaced) my fing pin bloc would my 75B function sans the bloc as does the 80series 1911 with no problem.  I realize that this is not a recommended condition and would probably void the warranty as well as being a litigous issue.  Any input from all would be appreciated.

....Ken

[Walt Sherrill]

You have only to try it to know the answer to this question. 

I'm sure it would work, but it would be less safe, and the trigger probably wouldn't noticeably improve.  (There be at least one fewer moving part in the mechanism.)  I'd replace the missing part, polishing it before I reinstalled it.

If you were to drop a loaded gun, it could discharge, if it hit just right.

[Canuck44]

Walt don't CZ have an inertial firing pin?  If you just push in the firing pin from the back I don't think you will find it will expose itself.  Without the FPB I believe the CZ line is drop safe.

Take Care

Bob

[Walt Sherrill]

Just because a gun has an inertial firing pin doesn't mean it can't be fired with an inadvertent drop. or impact. 

Most modern handguns have inertial firing pins. The likelihood of an accidental discharge from a drop or a slam from such a gun is arguably quite small -- the coincidence of angle, height, or force of strike would have to be just right, but it can happen. 

I personally wouldn't remove any safety device unless I was absolutely sure of the effect of that change. 

Lots of folks have removed them -- and a number of guys here have done it on the SA models, and adjusted the internal workings to optimize the trigger.  For a competition gun it's certainly OK, but for a gun used around the home, or for home defense, I'd be more wary.  (In the competition venue, there are a lot of safety precautions taken, people are out of the way, etc. etc.; that won't happen at home.)

[bleep, that reads as though it was written by a corporate lawyer trying to avoid a liability lawsuit.  It's not meant to be a copout, but an effort to not offer bad advice.]

[Canuck44]

I agree with your sentiments.  As far as competition is concerned being an average shooter in IDPA (SS -ESP/SSP) I am not sure how much effect not having the firing pin block would have in any event.  When the timer goes I just don't have the finger sensitivity to notice.  My 'smith does a pretty good trigger job on guns with firing pin blocks and it would take a far better shooter than I to pick out whether a gun has or has not got one installed.

Take care

Bob

[Walt Sherrill]

I suspect we could tell if the block had been removed, but to agree with your point, in an actual shooting contest (like IDPA) where you're really focusing on moving, on finding the target, on making sure you've shot the right number rounds, that you're keeping your lines of fire pointed in the right direction, etc., etc., I would think that "improvement" would be almost unnoticed.

For a very fine shooter, able to shoot a very good gun to its potential, it might make a difference -- but for the vast majority of shooters, I think its more of a "pride of ownership" or "my gun is better than your gun - ego" thing, than an improvement that really makes a difference.

(That comment will probably irritate  a number of folks reading here.   I think f hat a lot when I think of many of my IDPA club shooters who spend a fortune on guns and consistently shoot very poorly...)