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Offline MichiJim

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Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« on: January 25, 2009, 12:37:19 PM »
I just Saturday bought a CZ 75B Stainless, which the shop will be ordering from their distributor on Monday.  I had assumed I'd get a matte stainless pistol with two 16-rounds mags.  Now I'm reading here that I might get 10-round mags and I might get polished instead of matte?  What's up with all this and what do I need to tell my local gun shop when they order from their distributor to make sure I get what I had thought I'd get?

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Offline Dos

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 05:50:27 PM »
My matte finished stainless 75 with rubber grips and two 16 rd. mags is stock #01108.

Used to be the dealer when ordering specified 10 or 16 round mags according to which STATE he was located in.   

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 06:51:10 PM »
MichiJim,

I posted the two SKU's beginning with "9", i.e. 91108 and 91109 for the 75B in stainless. The polished version just started showing up and no one seemed to know why. I purchased the polished version from Cabela's. It came with two 16 rd. magazines and Cocobolo grips. The SKU on the box is, in total, 06703 91109. There was a set of rubber grips, showing evidence of being on a gun at some point, included with the gun.

I have checked Angus's site, CZ Custom, and he lists SKU 01108 for the SS model with 16 rd. magazines. On Buds Gunshop site they list three different SKU's, 01108 with 10 rd. magazines, 91108 with 16 rd. magazines and 91109 with Cocobolo grips and 16 rd. magazines. Can we say CONFUSED???

Joe
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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 10:42:58 AM »
Ok, just got off the phone with CZ-USA.  Here's the deal: The 01108 SKU is for dealer use.  It does refer to a product with a 10-round magazine, contrary to what CZ' own web page says.  Customers seeking a CZ 75B Stainless with 16-round mags (or are they 15?  That, too, seems up in the air) should ask for SKU 91108.  If I understood CA-USA correctly: All pistols ship from CZ as 01108, with 10-round magazines, and it's up to distributors to turn them into 91108s by swapping-out the 10-round mags for 16-round mags.

But wait: There's more!

Neither SKU will necessarily get you what you think you're ordering, much less what's shown on CZ-USA's web site.  It seems that CZ arbitrarily decided to stop shipping matte stainless about four months ago, and started shipping everything in polished stainless.   So: Unless you're looking right at it and can see for yourself that it's matte or polished, what you order may arrive as matte (if it was existing stock from four months ago or more) or it may be polished.  If it's not from stock, it will almost certainly be polished.  (The keywords there being "almost certainly.")

Neat, eh?  Random product type delivery!  You pays your nickel and you takes your chance!

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 11:11:03 AM »
MichiJim,

What, if anything, did they say about SKU 91109? That is the SKU for my polished 75B. 

My SS 75B has 08 as the manufacture year and was test fired on 3/6/08. You might try to find one made in 07 which would probably be matte finish. The only problem is there is not an abundance of old stock SS models.

Joe
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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 11:26:47 AM »
You might try to find one made in 07 which would probably be matte finish. The only problem is there is not an abundance of old stock SS models.
This is not something for which I have a lot of options.  The deal here, with the dealer, was a straight-up trade of something I had for something I wanted.  If the dealer can't get what I want, in either CZ or some other manufacturer, the deal's dead.

The goal is a 9mm "range gun."  (I prefer .40 S&W for carry/SD.)  If I can't get what I want in a CZ (which is looking like it'll be the case), I'll probably go to a Glock G34, which is their competition 9mm, or just forget the deal entirely.  Would be a shame, because I've been eyeing the CZ 75B Stainless (matte) for a year or two, now :(.

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 07:49:43 PM »
My stainless came with two 10 round magazine. I was highly dissipointed. I called CZ-USA and complained. They told me to send the 10 rounders in and they would exchange it for the 15 rounders. I just sent them in last Friday. I purchased three Mec-Gar 16 round mags and they work just fine.

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 07:49:38 AM »
Thanks for the feedback, everybody.

I have decided to cancel the deal.  I've decided against purchasing a CZ 75B Stainless, or, in fact, any CZ at all.

75Plus,

I answer to your query about SKU 91109: Sorry, I did not ask, as I had no interest in polished stainless.

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 10:46:02 AM »
Too bad. You're missing out on one of the world's great firearms in a CZ-75B Stainless. I can understand not wanting a polished finish though.

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 02:38:57 PM »
A matte stainless can be had if one is patient.  They show up when you least expect it.  Half the fun is acquiring one.   I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.

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I foun two 01108's listed as in stock.
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 09:38:12 PM »
MichiJim....PM Sent on matte stainless

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Re: I foun two 01108's listed as in stock.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 09:01:11 AM »
MichiJim....PM Sent on matte stainless
Hi Dos,

I appreciate your effort, and truly thank you for it, but two things: 1. What was happening between me an the dealer was a straight-up swap for a rifle I had and a CZ 75B Stainless.  I don't have the money to buy one.  2. It's become moot.  I've decided I don't need any more firearms.  If anything: I'll more likely be selling, than buying.

Btw: For the life of me: I couldn't figure out how to get to PMs on this site.

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Re: Matte vs. Polished, 10-rnds Mags? What's Up With That?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 10:20:41 AM »
You are quite welcome MichiJim.   For anybody interested, two pistols listed as 01108's are listed at :   RSR Group.  There are five locations in US.   The stock number is CZ75 01108, Stainless,  listed with two 10 rd mags...$572.     Who knows if they are matte finished or not with all we've read so far.    But my box says 01108 and it IS matte stainless not polished. 

I got the CZ Coco Grips here from a forum member.



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