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Offline valynor

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New Shadow "Mamba"
« on: February 09, 2009, 08:37:28 PM »
Hi there,

since pictures are always nice (I guess), here we go:



I bought this CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow "Mamba" today. I especially like the way the pistol fits into my hands, really excellent grip.
Will take it out for IPSC training on thursday.  ;D

 -Valynor

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 08:44:30 PM »
ooooohhh...."Mamba"...did you come up with that name?  That is the first I time I have heard that as a descriptor for the Shadow....I like it!!!  How do you like the aluminum grips?  Your Mamba looks great!
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Offline CZMania!!1!

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 08:47:36 PM »
Ah yes.  The black mamba.  Deadliest snake in the world.  Fitting name for a badass gun.

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 08:54:59 PM »
I forgot to ask if you had any work done on it?  That looks like a competition hammer.
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Offline valynor

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 09:10:16 PM »
Hey,

no, I didn't come up with this name .. this particular model is sold as CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow "Mamba" by Frankonia in Germany. The gun comes out of the box as you see it on the picture .. and yes, that's the competition hammer.? ;D ;D  Link: http://www.frankonia.de/shop/SP_01_Shadow_MAMBA/_/bid/232402/cpage/0/productdetail.html

@dgspurge The aluminum grips are nice, ask me again after thursday, tho. ;-) I can get a really positive, high grip on the gun - feels just right!

 -Valynor
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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 09:18:52 PM »
I checked out the website...very nice.  I would love to hear about the grips, so please let us know how things go on Thurs.  I have to say though...I am just amazed at how expensive pistols are in Europe...999 euros for the Mamba!!!   :o
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Offline valynor

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 09:52:54 PM »
Ya, they're ripping us off big time over here. :-(

I didn't pay the full prize though, but ?899.

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2009, 04:12:01 PM »
Everything is more expensive here.
Even mountain and outdoor clothing from switzerland (a brand called Mammut), is more expensive ordered from switzerland, then from some outdoorshop in the states.
Same goes for a Ghost Holster for instance. (italian brand)
 ::)

It can be frustrating sometimes.

Offline Tactical Madman

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 07:23:19 PM »
So Valynor... your also Dutch....? Nice Mamba...... !

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 07:32:34 PM »
Out of curiosity...do the gun laws in Europe differ from country to country (much like ours do from state to state) or is there an overriding EU set of laws?
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Offline CZMania!!1!

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »
The gun laws in socialist countries as in Europe are intentionally as cumbersome and onerous as possible to dissuade as many people as possible from owning a firearm.  That way if they want to revoke gun ownership overnight (see Australia) they can do so without any problem at all.   I hardly even see the purpose of owning a firearm under such conditions (besides just for fun), where the firearms can be confiscated overnight as they did in Australia.  Under such an onerous system the right to own firearms hardly guarantees their freedoms as they do (at least theoretically) here in the U.S. where confiscating the guns would be next to impossible and result in a revolution.

Offline valynor

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2009, 09:55:12 PM »
@Tactical Madman
I'm german.

@dgspurge
Every country has different gun laws over here, ranging from complete no-no to somewhat liberal.

I can live with the gun laws in Germany (what you basically have to do in Germany to be allowed to own a handgun is to shoot in a sport-shooting club for a year). While I'm naturally pro-gun I still think some kind of regulation is needed, there are just too many stupid people out there I would not like to have easy access to (legal) firearms.
I can't see an overnight ban for firearms happening here, at least not in Germany, we have a long history in shooting traditions. There are also a lot of german companies in the weapon industry (Heckler&Koch, Walther, Mauser and many more) with the accompanying lobbyists. While I'm not particulary fond of the weapon industry as a whole, this is a good thing for private gun ownership, I guess.

 -Valynor
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Offline Alex

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 06:09:52 AM »
Gunlaws definately differ from country to country in europe.

Switzerland for instance is the number two in the world when it comes to gunownership % if i'm not mistaking.
Laws are a fair amount less strict an restrictive there and there is a policy that people who have done military service get the choice to take their service rifle and handgun home, with some munition sealed in a can. (This with goal for the militia of swiss inhabitants and selfdefence against foreign forces)
The sportshooting associations are also very widely accepted and active there.

This is in contrast to most european countries, where laws are often much stricter and ownership is almost always related to sports shooting, and not with the intent of defensive use. (The UK has a terribly strict regulation.)
Getting a gunpermit and a gun itself is in most cases a bureaucratic process and guns are recorded with their serial numbers.

It's for instance not allowed in the netherlands to carry a gun with you in any other situation then going to the gunshop/smith/range and home. Getting caught with your gun on your way to a friends place, supermarket, etc. will probably result in a warning or loss of the permit.
Even if you get robbed on your way to the range, using it in defence will probably get you into big trouble.
At home, it must all be kept in a save, munition in a seperate compartment.
Additonally, the local lawenforcement department involved in guncontrol is allowed to make surprise visits to your home to check your gunsave and guns all check out and everything is in order. (not a housesearch, just the gunsave and guns) This doesn't happen often though.

Personally I dont mind some control on the guns, and there being a thorough background check on people applying for a permit. Some guns that are illegal to keep I can understand (full auto guns), but some rules often sound a bit silly (standard m4 shoulderstock is banned: it falls in the category of collapsible stock...).
If you are interested i can get into much further detail regarding dutch laws, (just ask away if you want)

I think one of the things that this results in is that gunowners here are generally good shooters with a strong sense of safety and very competent gunhandling and knowledge.
People that own guns here really love the sport and the tools.
The thing I miss most is beeing able to just go somewhere and have a fungun shoot somewhere in the woods. Sitting on that enclosed dusty range every time gets boring sometimes...

Offline valynor

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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 03:16:30 PM »
I would love to hear about the grips, so please let us know how things go on Thurs. 

Everything went extremely well. The grippyness of the aluminum is fine, I had no problems at all getting a positive grip on the pistol. Recoil is very very light and just right for fast shooting like in IPSC. I managed to shoot 5 steel plates (20cm) at 10 meters in 5.43sec (from the holster) on my first try with the CZ Mamba. This really surprised me because I'm not accustomed to the gun just yet and I was quite a bit slower with my "old" pistol (H&K USP Expert 9mm).

I had to adjust the rear sights a little, the pistol shot ~8cm to the right. Getting the bleep sights to move was a MAJOR pain, they were like welded shut. :-/ Other than that no problems at all.
Now I need a holster for IPSC .. any recommendations perhaps? :)

 -Valynor


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Re: New Shadow "Mamba"
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 02:44:40 PM »
Valynor,

Congrats on that lovely Mamba!  Looks great.  Do you get that in 40S&W cal. as well?

 

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