Thoughts on the old CZ75 "tough metal" legend

[K3JB]

Thanks, will have to learn how to post a picture. I should know this

[Psyop96]

Thanks, will have to learn how to post a picture. I should know this

If you have a mobile device, it's super easy with the Tapatalk app as it feeds right from your photo library. Otherwise, you'll need a host site and follow the directions on the FAQ on the welcome page.

[K3JB]

Thanks for the photo help, I will try it. On my 75 pre B the sights are very dull. I am sure they were bright dots at one time,
but they have gone dull are are hard to pick up at the range. Tried using a Q tips with a little light detergent, but that did not solve the problem. Another dilemma,  should I just shoot it in its completely stock condition or send it off to CGW to be smoothed out?

[M1A4ME]

If you want to save the original sights (good condition except for the white dots being dull??) you might try repainting the dots.

Now, I have not yet done this myself.  I have wondered about it and intend to try it at some point.

The dots are small round holes drilled or pressed into the rear face of the sights.  With some type of white paint applied into the hole to make the sights stand out better.

I've wondered if I could take a small drill bit and turn it with my fingers to dig/remove the white paint from the holes in the sights.  And then use that white glow in the dark paint to drip into the holes to make not just white dots for daylight use but glow in the dark (for a few hours after being powered up by a flashlight or other light source). 

I've used this paint in one pistol sight when the factory white dot fell out.   

http://www.glow-on.com/

[Krgolob]

Hi, some thoughts regarding early short rail 75s serial numbers.

I've checked many models on internet (forums, auction houses) and this is my conclusion.

All '75 and '76 models have 01xxx serial numbers except first prototype batch (00001...). The highest '75 serial number I found was 01072, which is contradictory to number of CZ75 produced in 1975 (54). Nevertheless I assume that those pre-serial production pistols were labeled 01xxx and the true serial production started with 10xxx.

The serial production as mentioned started in 1977 and all '77 models have numbers from 10xxx to 12xxx, lowest I found was 10334, highest 11xxx. This is more or less in line with 2000 early short-rails produced in 1977.

Lowest 1978 number I found was 12493 and I guess they were numbered till 18xxx.
1979 models were numbered till 24xxx (I found one '79 with serial 19xxx).

As mentioned on this forum, short-rail were produced till 1980 with highest known serial number 256xx, which is in line with my assumption that the counting started at 10000. There were 14.697 short-rails produced from 1977 till the end of 1979, so the first short rail produced in 1980 should have serial number 10000+14697= 24697. So there were arround 1.500 short-rails produced in 1980, the rest of 9.000 were pre-Bs.

First pre-production batch with serial numbers 010xx
1975- 54
1976- 18

Production batch with serial from 10000.
1977- 2,000 produced with serials from 10000 till 12xxx
1978- 6,047 produced with serials from 12xxx till 18xxx
1979- 6,650 produced with serials from 18xxx till 24xxx
1980- ~1,500 produced with serials till 26xxx

[Psyop96]

Very nice research and data analysis. To further fill in your low-high database, there was a '78 with serial 122xx on auction. Regarding '78-'79, a forum member recently auctioned off one with serial 187xx.

It would be great to know if the pre-B started with 26000 one of these days. Welcome to the forum.

[Krgolob]

It would be great to know if the pre-B started with 26000 one of these days.

The earliest pre-B was published on this forum HERE, serial number 261xx, together with short rail #256xx, both from '80. So in between there has to been the transition, but if pre-B actually started with 26xxx is yet unknown.

[Clausewitz]

[Clausewitz]

Just as a small update, I spoke with CZUB about the history of CZ75 #01002.



It appears it is indeed the second production gun.  The only one listed before it is 01001. 

01002 was shipped from the factory to West Germany in January of 1976.

I was talking with a friend about this gun and possible reasons why it would have been sent to West Germany in 1976, and with a big smile on his face he sent me this:











That is an article about the new pistol from CZ.  It is from April 1976. 

And the coolest thing is that the featured pistol is CZ75 01002.  That's why it left the factory and was sent to West Germany. 

Gun collecting is fun.

[Psyop96]

Truly amazing! That's a treasure. And a good thing for that pistol. [emoji4]

[Tok36]

That is indeed, exceptionally neat. Thank you for the post.

[romukom]

Wow! Indeed now your gun have risen in value when there is a traceable and proven history.

[Lion122]

Here in South Africa there are lots of 75 pistols running very good. Only thing around here is the outside of the gun that looses its blueing thats about it that we have to complain about.

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[racoonbeast]

I have seen a CZ 75s advertised as being made from "Poldi Steel". It was mentioned as though this was something special. I looked up Poldi Steel and learned that it is/was a huge steel forge that has been is business for several centuries. Apparently it has/had a huge reputation for superior steel. I don't know if it is even producing steel today. The article that I read about the factory seems to indicate that it is a massive local version of a super fund site, badly in need of clean up.

I am wondering if the references to "super steel" are related to their use of this steel at some point in their manufacture?

[CrusherDestroyer]

Possible Spanish frame 1980 pictures.

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=125479.0