Czechmate guns, open and standard

[Stuart]

oh only if...

http://www.wingevapen.no/index.php?do=product&id=2225

open and standard div. Czechmate guns

it looks like it has a couple of barrels and is switchable from open to standard.

[burningsquirrels]

nice

[phrozenlikwid]

Whoaaaaa, now that's something cool.  I haven't seen that package.

Assuming that price is in Norwegian Kroners (29,990), that package is almost $5100.  Ouch......

So the big question to me is...... what's the holdup getting something like that to the US?

[PTGT_Neon]

Ditto.  Not that I wold pay that much for it.  I'd settle for that upper!

[Kai.]

Hello you all
I an a new meber on this forum, and guess what? i just got my CZECHMATE in 9mm for a couple of days ago. i work in a gun store here in Norway (Winge V?pen) and we sell CZ in our store.
Tried first to check witch bullet length i could go for in the gun, tried 2 diferent types of bullets, 1: Frontier 124 grn RN and 2: Artzipilago 124 grn TC, i had to set them at 29mm any longer they got stuck on the rifling in the barrel.
Here i some of my loading data, this is ment for the experiensed self loader.

Frontier 123 grn
Vithavouri 3N38
8,4 grn
29,0mm
Federal SP
mixed brass

1.1391
2.1412
3.1412
AV.1405
PF.172,8

1.1421
2.1404
3.1418
AV1431
PF176,0


Artzipilago 123 grn
Vithavouri 3N38
8,4 grn
29,0mm
Federal SP
mixed brass

1.1363
2.1368
3.1356
AV.1362
PF.167,5

1.1373
2.1372
3.1360
AV.1368
PF.168,3

1.1360
2.1367
3.1373
AV.1366
PF.168

I uses the Federal SP because it is easy to look fore pressure signs, there is pressure, but not too much

When i shoot theese loades i thought that this was not enough PF because the recoil was so light. i tried also som factory ammo and of course they felt lighter. i shot about 400 rnds with only a couple of jams, due to my own loaded ammo. I also tried some "production" loads from a friend of mine with a PF of 126 and my gun worked perfectly.

Best Regards
Rino

[burningsquirrels]

i'm afraid to ask the price! lol

[burningsquirrels]

that is a great price for a complete open gun with extra parts! now to buy some lotto tickets, lol...

[Stuart]

OK..now I am just jealous. its here in the US..

[MHOP987]

YES THEY ARE IN THE US AND FOR SALE

[burningsquirrels]

^^^ because i can't get one.  

[pistolbro206]

I want one! 

[PTGT_Neon]

I want the upper with conventional sights

[grywlfbg]

Talked to Matt this morning and it'll ship out today or tomorrow! 

I'm impressed they kept a lid on this long enough to get them in stock.  I assumed I'd order it today and it would be months before it actually arrived.  I was SHOCKED when Matt said it would ship so quickly.  I'm impressed!

My Open 3-gun package is nearly complete - now to get my Saiga-12 back from R&R.

[burningsquirrels]

shall i PM you my home address so you know where you can send it for its break-in period?

[grywlfbg]

When i shoot theese loades i thought that this was not enough PF because the recoil was so light. i tried also som factory ammo and of course they felt lighter. i shot about 400 rnds with only a couple of jams, due to my own loaded ammo. I also tried some "production" loads from a friend of mine with a PF of 126 and my gun worked perfectly.

Best Regards
Rino

Rino,

Thanks for the data.  This gives me a good place to start.  I was debating 3n38 or N105.  I will be loading for Minor as I only shoot 3-gun and there is no power factor to deal with.

I'm glad to hear that low PF loads worked as well.  Did you have to experiment with different recoil springs?  Do you know what weight spring is stock?