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Offline GBelovs

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Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« on: June 27, 2010, 02:30:24 AM »
Hi everyone!
I'm bought my first gun - P07 duty, I'm left-handed user and I need your help.
I can't understand how to change mag catch from right-hand to left-hand.
I found this video in czub.cz,
http://www.czub.cz/zbrojovka/cz_images/gif/DUTY%20Magazine%20Catch.gif
but I can't understand how it works - I press with nail in hole from mag catch back,but nothing happens.
Maybe You can explain me how to do it, maybe you can drop some explaining photos.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 07:48:55 AM by Widge »

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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety questionv on my new P-07
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 07:38:38 AM »
Hi everyone!
After I bought my P-07 duty I can't push the safety up to the Safety-On position when hammer is down.
http://content20-foto.inbox.lv/albums133825073/gatinsh1984/CZ-75-P-07-duty/Pic1.jpg
I can push the safety up to the Safety-On position only when I a little bit move hammer backwards.
http://content20-foto.inbox.lv/albums133825079/gatinsh1984/CZ-75-P-07-duty/Pic2.jpg
http://content20-foto.inbox.lv/albums133825084/gatinsh1984/CZ-75-P-07-duty/Pic3.jpg
What's wrong???

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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety questionv on my new P-07
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 07:45:03 AM »
Nothing. The safety only works when the hammer is cocked.
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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 10:28:43 AM »
The safety works when the hammer is not cocked. ;)
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For all you gun nuts out there who are enjoying your nifty PO-7 Duty guns, are you able to flip the safety to "On" without the hammer being cocked? I ask only because my 75B (.40) does not allow me to engage the safety unless the hammer is cocked.  Thanks!

Amistad
Um.... no, but why would you want or need to?
Thanks for the reply, Smith.

With my current carry guns, ever since I have been carrying concealed, I have carried with the hammer down and the safety engaged.  In conjunction with that, I have trained myself many, many times to flip the safety off as I draw, and then fire with a DA pull of the trigger.  I prefer not to carry "cocked and locked", thus wondered about how the safety works on the PO-7.

Amistad
I never tried it with my P07 when I had the safety installed, switched to decocker. 99% of CZs require the hammer to be cocked for the safety to be used, a military requirement.
YES,  only  Duty can do it.  SP-01 and 75B need to be cocked to engage the safety.


There ya go, I wasn't looking forward to re installing the saety to try that, thanks, excheck.
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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »
mine only works when the hammer is in the 1/2 cocked position and at full cock...

Yours doesn't look like it's 1/2 cocked though in the picture... that's odd.

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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 04:33:52 PM »
I bought my first DUTY from Angus and he did trigger job before the shipment.   CZUSA  replaced it with the new one (sticky mags) and  did the trigger job free of charge. That might be the difference.
CZ DUTY instruction manual page 6:
The safety lever can be set to the "safe" position even with the hammer on safety notch.  However it is not recommended...
You make the decision. 
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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 04:45:40 PM »
When the manual says the lever can be set on safe with the hammer on the safety notch do you think it's reffering to the half cocked position I'm talking about?

I had been carrying like that because I figured it was safer than having the hammer locked back with the safety on...  Now I'm confused.

If there's a safety concern carrying like that I'm going to stop immediately.  My mind just figured that it was safer the other way around.

I would be interested in the possible implications of carrying with the hammer down and the safety on.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 04:53:20 PM by hotrod6657 »

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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 08:38:34 PM »
The issue the instruction manual talks about is if you have the trigger at half-cock and the safety on, and try to pull the trigger (without taking the safety off).  It could cause damage to the trigger mechanism.

But, in my opinion, either use the safety and hammer fully cocked, or switch out for the decocker and use the DA pull as a 'safety'.  Using the safety and the DA pull is redundant, and greatly increases the chances of an ND when you're lowering the hammer by hand.  But that is just my opinion.

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Re: Switching the mag catch and safety question on my new P-07
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 09:11:04 PM »
Okay, thanks.  I'm glad the manual was referring to pulling the trigger with the hammer down/safety on and not simply using the safety period.

I know the debate of decocker vs safety hammer down vs safety hammer cocked is a pretty old one so we won't go there.

The only reason I like the hammer down with safety is that I figure it's that much harder for it to go off period.  The hammer not being back means less potential energy stored in the hammer, so more energy required to fire the gun.  Again, simply a matter of personal opinion though I understand the added risk of ND.  Perhaps I'll switch at some point.