SP-01 mods

[retteryer]

Trying to do some mods for my SP-01,have few questions.Whats the best way to melt fiber optic rod when installed in front site?What is so good about having DA on your gun,what you realy need it for?...asking because I'm thinking about converting my SP-01 in SA,and is it nessesary to remove disconnector or trigger change is just enough?And also is it possible to convert SP-01 Tactical into SA,i think there was a post where Angus said there will be no safety on it in this case,is it legal to go to shooting range having gun with no safety?...and my last question is how to remove right side of manual safety,is it just seat tight on metal pin,what to use to take it out without damaging finish?Thanks.

[Cesar]

Are you trying to convert SP-01 into a 1911 gun? 

- Best way to melt FO rod is over windproof lighter.
- DA gun gives you a choice of having round chambered and hammer down; also if a light primer strike happens, you can just pull trigger one more time;
- if Glocks are allowed at your range, so should be any gun without safety;

If you want a SA gun - get a SA gun.

[retteryer]

Well.Glock's have safety on trigger,I'm talking about no safety at all.And main purpose of DA gun is not for having a second chance to light primer.

[Stuart]

Trying to do some mods for my SP-01,have few questions.Whats the best way to melt fiber optic rod when installed in front site?

I usually melt with a lighter and flatten with a screwdriver

What is so good about having DA on your gun,what you realy need it for?

Competition rules, restrike capabilities, some people just like it.

asking because I'm thinking about converting my SP-01 in SA,and is it nessesary to remove disconnector or trigger change is just enough?

if you are going to convert it SAO, might as well to get the best SAO you can.

And also is it possible to convert SP-01 Tactical into SA,i think there was a post where Angus said there will be no safety on it in this case,is it legal to go to shooting range having gun with no safety?

That would be up to your local range. You would not be able to shoot any competitions..and the gun would be only really useful for square range use. ( pretty limiting)

and my last question is how to remove right side of manual safety,is it just seat tight on metal pin,what to use to take it out without damaging finish?

it fits into the frame, so you would need to make a bushing of some sort to support the right hand side of the shaft.

[Cesar]

Well.Glock's have safety on trigger,I'm talking about no safety at all.And main purpose of DA gun is not for having a second chance to light primer.

Then educate me please, what is the main purpose of DA? I always thought it was ability to cock gun by simply pulling on the trigger...
And if you are talking about a gun with no safety at all, what's different between such a gun and Glock? You pull trigger - it shoots.
Even decocker guns are not consideed to have safety. And I'm not talking FPB safety.

[PTGT_Neon]

the heavy trigger weight of the DA is the safety.  First shot is DA.  subsequent shots are SA.

with the SP-01 equipped with safeties, you have the option of carrying cocked and locked or DA safety off.  If you only carry cocked and locked, SA only may work fine for you.  If you carry to use DA first like I do, then decockers may be more appealing.

I don't know what you local gun laws are on having a gun without safeties.  If you want to modify a decocker to be used as SA and the safety be hammer down, then why not?  It's all a preference in my opinion.  Do what you think will work best for you.  You'll be the one using it.

[retteryer]

First thanks to all of you who replyed.I'm in Illinois,so carry or not is not a question for me and I'm not planning to  compete,just for fun.Speaking about educating,I think main purpose of DA is more firepower against whoever you fighting,guns made for war,not for shooting ranges(at least 99% of them).You can cock revolver even its not DA,so educate me why they making DA revolvers??....I need to remove right side of the safety only to dissassembe gun,not like permanently remove it,should I just pry it with something?both posts in mainenance section with pictures only shows how to remove left side.Any help on disconnector question?

[PTGT_Neon]

look through the gunsmithing section.  lots of good stuff.  But not exactly easy to browse, so use the search function.

I don't know much about revolvers.  They aren't interesting to me.  They are like bolt guns to me . . "why are people still doing that?"  but whatever.  its all a preference.

[ferrarif1fan]

Yep, I believe the link below discusses pulling the right side safety out. Looks to me like both the right and left side safeties are held in place by the end of one of the springs in the extractor cage. Go the page below and look at the thirteenth picture from the top. If you pull up slightly on that spring, I imagine you can then remove both safeties.

http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=14688.0

As far as why double action, it's there to allow someone to fire the weapon even if the hammer is down. I'm like others here. I carry my concealed weapons with the hammer at half cock with a round chambered. That keeps the hammer off of the firing pin and allows me to simply draw and squeeze the trigger for a DA first shot. I consider it a very safe way to carry a loaded gun. I know there are tons of people who carry with the hammer cocked and the safety on. For me personally, that's just an accident waiting to happen. I will probably never, ever carry that way.

Robert

[Stuart]

First thanks to all of you who replyed.I'm in Illinois,so carry or not is not a question for me and I'm not planning to  compete,just for fun.Speaking about educating,I think main purpose of DA is more firepower against whoever you fighting,guns made for war,not for shooting ranges(at least 99% of them).You can cock revolver even its not DA,so educate me why they making DA revolvers??

I think DA's on handguns are more like a safety device..rather than install a mechanical safety, the first stroke is heavy and deliberate..you can be off and on that trigger without worrying about a discharge.

....I need to remove right side of the safety only to dissassembe gun,not like permanently remove it,should I just pry it with something?both posts in mainenance section with pictures only shows how to remove left side.Any help on disconnector question?

no don't pry it..
when you disassemble..pull the left side out, pull the ejector housing out, rotate the rhs and it release. there is a VERY small plate the holds the safety in..be careful of that part.

[retteryer]

Thank you guys!Any help on disconnector,remove or not when converting to SA?

[Stuart]

Thank you guys!Any help on disconnector,remove or not when converting to SA?

you can go either way, I usually take it out since it is a useless part in SAO

[Cesar]

In my opinion, both DA semis and revolvers are better suited for service or wilderness protection. You draw, you pull the trigger, repeat. With revolvers, even if round doesn't go off due to its defect, you get next round to fire. No need to disengage safety, can use one hand, a little faster. Decocker guns are better suited for when you need to load and unload them somewhat frequently, there is only one and same motion - to decock - pushing lever down, becomes DA gun. Heavy first trigger pull is due to mechanics of cocking the gun, if it has hammer.
Again, imho, Glocks and some other striker type guns with 'safety' on trigger - give one false sense of having safety, unlike say HK P7, you pull trigger - it fires. P7 on the other hand, you need to squeeze grip well to cock the gun, you loosen grip - it's safe; you pull trigger - nothing will happen - this is safety.
I'm not trying to say that SA guns are worse or not as safe. It's just one needs to get used to them and be efficient. It's like driving a car with auto or manual transmission.
Life examples: 1) I shoot in Production and was so used to firing 1st shot in DA that when started ESP and L10, I drew and pulled trigger a few first times, forgetting to disengage safety;
2) I drive standard, and after many years of doing so, I had an auto to drive - almost hit windshield with my head while taking off ramp I was so used to pressing-in clutch with left foot...

What I' getting at is that SA guns require a little more discipline and work. This may as well be one of the main reasons why Production and SSP  - both require DA guns (like car with auto), but next levels are - SA guns.

[retteryer]

Stuart,can you be a little more specific when you talking  about small plate that holds safety in place,if you said A,than say B

[Cesar]

I think what he meant was safety detent plunger, lookup photo #25 at this link: http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=14688.0