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Offline ShooterRick

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Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« on: March 20, 2011, 07:04:52 PM »
Today was suppose to be range day for my VZ58.  My buddy called ahead to an indoor rifle range and was assured his 308 and my 7.62x39 was welcome.  Once we arrived I was informed NO AKs allowed on the range.  I calmly explained the the VZ58 was not an AK and internally was completely different.  He told me "If it looks like an AK its an AK and not welcome here!"
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After some friendly conversation it was disclosed some Rambo Types had brought in AKs and were spraying rounds all over the place from the hip.  Instead of barring the Rambo idiots he barred the rifle!  Sheesh!  I am looking for a new range to say the least.

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 07:30:21 PM »
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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2011, 09:39:44 PM »
Reminds me of a range I went to in Washington state in the 1980s.  Garands, M1 Carbines, and M1As were OK, but the AR15 and AR180s were prohibited.  I never understood why I could shoot my M1 Carbine there, but not my Ar-180!

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 06:47:33 AM »
If that serves for logic I would shoot elsewhere too. Gun range people are a strange bunch  that sometimes get a rainman like fixation on their pet peeves. Not good business thought processes.

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »
A quote from "Two and a Half Men"
"He's an Idiot Savant...But without the Savant part!"
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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 01:39:48 PM »
Today was suppose to be range day for my VZ58.  My buddy called ahead to an indoor rifle range and was assured his 308 and my 7.62x39 was welcome.  Once we arrived I was informed NO AKs allowed on the range.  I calmly explained the the VZ58 was not an AK and internally was completely different.  He told me "If it looks like an AK its an AK and not welcome here!"
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After some friendly conversation it was disclosed some Rambo Types had brought in AKs and were spraying rounds all over the place from the hip.  Instead of barring the Rambo idiots he barred the rifle!  Sheesh!  I am looking for a new range to say the least.

How tempting was it to dress up in armchair-commando gear, take a Ruger 10/22 and do the exact same thing?  I'd like to see how much business he keeps when he bans something as common as that :P
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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 09:00:11 PM »
well to be honest, I wish my shooting club would do the same...
some idiot took and ar-15 and at 10ft from the target backing, shot 100's of rds all over and blasted the backstop into three pieces
ak-lover's... although most of them have WASR's which they call AK's and are even bigger pieces of junk; spray steal cases all over
and don't pick them up. you can't be there to catch people all of the time, so that is why you have to eliminate those types of firearms
from the premises took keep the tools who have no interest in target shooting, competitive shooting, or hunting from destroying property
Also, I find it extremely annoying when some idiot with a bag of high cap magazines is shooting next to me trying to see how fast he can
unload a mag.

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 03:50:00 PM »
That, unfortunately, is the attitude that divides gun owners into the what can be known as the "Rambo" and "Fudd" camps. Also known as being "Zumbo'd", after a famous gun writer slammed black rifles and lost his job from the backlash. It matters not the type of firearm, but the person behind it.

Here are two rifles, separate in function and design, united by a common caliber.



The one is not a "sniper rifle", the other is not an "assault rifle", they're just civilian legal firearms that I use in sport and defense. To arbitarily bar them from regular ranges is too fall into the semantics trap set by the Brady Bunch and others, to make you use their tactics.
Punish the user, not the tool.
If you have someone being unsafe with ANY firearm, make the RSO aware of it, call Cease Fire, do what you can. Once upon a time my wife and I were at the range, and she was having fun shooting her WASR 10. We didn't realize that her ejected empties were landing on a nice old couple next to us, but when we did see, we apologized profusely, and switch rifles. They understood and were not upset.

As for target shooting, I use both the rifles pictured here to shoot targets from 50 to 200 yards...

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 08:54:27 PM »
well to be honest, I wish my shooting club would do the same...
some idiot took and ar-15 and at 10ft from the target backing, shot 100's of rds all over and blasted the backstop into three pieces
ak-lover's... although most of them have WASR's which they call AK's and are even bigger pieces of junk; spray steal cases all over
and don't pick them up. you can't be there to catch people all of the time, so that is why you have to eliminate those types of firearms
from the premises took keep the tools who have no interest in target shooting, competitive shooting, or hunting from destroying property
Also, I find it extremely annoying when some idiot with a bag of high cap magazines is shooting next to me trying to see how fast he can
unload a mag.

While I understand your frustration with those less than safe and with Rambo attitudes, to bar a perfectly legal firearm chambered in the same round as other exceptable legal fire arms is like beating the horse to death because the plow broke.  I would better understand banning the idiots that brought this about.  The inherancy of the problem lies with the operator not the firearm.  You can be unsafe with a musket or a bow and arrow.  Do we ban golf clubs because someone choose to beat someone to death with one? 

Since this happened I have contacted another range happy  to have my buisness.

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Re: Un Frigging Believable! Sheesh!
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 09:53:24 PM »
Well, now that I see the photo I fully understand.

The one on the right is BLACK and therefore much more dangerous. \

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