Here are my posts. Compare them to others.
"Of course we all know that, given we have not seen an actual example, that the quality will be inferior. This is especially born out by the inferior quality of the 25th and 30th anniversary examples of the venerable CZ75."
"I assume you have a point...somewhere.
I, for one, have no problem if folks want one. I'm not a big fan. It seems that CZ was not, either, else they would not have dropped it in favor of what they have produced over the last 30 years, or so.
Also, be careful, there are those who just recently posted who seem to be proud of their Swiss pistols. We would not want to make them feel unwelcome, would we?"
Widge, you thought there was a problem there, so things changed direction.
"There were precious few purchasers of the short-rail pistols. The Czech's didn't use them, nor did the Comblock or NATO. The bulk of these went to Africa, particularly Rhodesia and later South Africa. Demand for them did not actually increase until after the redesign."
"The demand went up relatively recently. They have always been expensive, but there was a time not long ago when they were half what some would pay for them today. Perceived scarcity coupled with a growing respect for CZ products in general are the cause. There are rarer 75's out there, but the short-rail is the best known of the rare pistols. There are those who also prefer its unique lines."
"The M28 does not have much in common with the CZ-75 beyond the interior rails, which was done by the SIG 210 before either pistol was on the drawing board. It was designed for trials in the US and then used by the Spanish military, as well as the updated M30. In any case, the M28, according to Stephen Camp, is forged and so would have had nothing to do with castings made for CZ.
There has been talk of inferior frames being cast in Spain in the early 1980's, but these frames were long and not short. As to how to distinguish them, there seems no good information. Also, the quality of the castings may have caused pistol problems, or simply may have been off spec, requiring extra manufacturing."
"Perhaps they should have partnered with that Italian firm that everyone, the Swiss, Czechs, Turks, and Israelis, have partnered with to make their versions of the CZ-75."
And this, evidently, is the really, really bad post:
T"he Bren Ten has lived quite nicely for more than a decade. The 10mm Witness is everything the Bren Ten was supposed to be - a CZ-75 based pistol in 10mm Auto (or 10mm Norma). Cosmetically they are different, but it is what Jeff Cooper was going for, and has been a successful pistol with thousands produced."
"What on earth?Huh??? What in the heck did I say? Good grief, talk about thin skin, I made no negative comment at all!
"The Bren Ten has lived quite nicely for more than a decade. The 10mm Witness is everything the Bren Ten was supposed to be - a CZ-75 based pistol in 10mm Auto (or 10mm Norma). Cosmetically they are different, but it is what Jeff Cooper was going for, and has been a successful pistol with thousands produced."
Where in this world can anyone possibly divine any attack in that statement? Where?
As to the Bren Ten versus the Witness, the reality is that Jeff Cooper A) had a deep respect for the CZ-75 platform and B) had a deep respect for the 10mm Norma Auto. The Bren Ten was his vision of merging the two. It failed because of production issues, no matter what Crockett carried in Miami Vice.
The 10mm Witness is cosmetically different from the Bren Ten, of course. But, other than machining, the differences are mild. The trigger mechanism is the same, as is the safety. The extractor and firing pin block are different. However, it very clearly, very definitely, fulfills Cooper's dream of a CZ-based 10mm. Arguing cosmetics makes no difference.
As to short rail versus long rail, there aren't enough Bren Tens to know if the shorter rails would have been an issue. They are not generally an issue, but CZ - and virtually every other metallic-framed locked-breach manufacturer, seem to feel longer rails are better."
Now, find in there, especially after you had a problem with what I said earlier (you seem fine with Para's actions). Read in my comments and show me where I was rude or improper. Widge, you said "What you are doing is nit-picking over things that bear no relevance to the original thread and specifically spitting hairs over statements made by another member who you have disagreed with in the past." Okay, fine, you quote where I nit-picked. Show me.
However, a snide remark was made by Para, and you joined in.
"{sigh}
Anyone who would value a re-issue of a pistol as much as the original it seeks to emulate is the very type of person such tacky copies are made for.
If they made it in Switzerland, however... Tongue"
You replied:
"LOL. I might buy one simply cuz there aren't too many originals around in good shape for good prices. That is, if they import them."
So, Para can make a rude remark and your response is to laugh?
So he doesn't like when I make a comment about a pistol and says
"The admin has already asked for you and I to go to opposite corners and I have done my best to ignore your subtle snipes, but you just keep at it, so really, man, grow up a bit, huh? Suck it up. Someone disagrees with you on some things. Do you think you can handle that?"
Then he has the gall to say:
"Yeah, I'd say calling a bit of a stretch is being kind. Widge, can you keep this child off of me? Is his mom around, maybe? She needs to watch him a bit more closely. The adults are trying to have a converstaion here."
And you back him up? You support him in his attacks? You defend him and accuse me of instigation? It is not right behavior and you know it. Para is trolling, making personal attacks. I am not.
