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Offline Mr. RoC

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How to stake a roll pin????
« on: May 16, 2011, 06:54:57 AM »
I tried Google but can up empty.

I have a new CZ UB Trigger Roll Pin for my Shadow, how do I stake both ends to prevent it from falling out.

No I will not be getting one from CZ Custom so don't even mention it.

Thanks for the help.


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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 09:35:09 AM »
I do not know if this is the "correct" method, but I use a spring loaded center punch.
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Offline high pockets

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 10:42:53 AM »
Way I was taught to "stake" a pin, I would never recommend doing to a firearm.  The way I was taught to "stake" a pin is to insert the pin fully (recessed below the surface of the hole) and then, using a chisel, slightly larger than the opening, put the chisel on the metal surface, across the pin and strike the chisel with a hammer.  doing this on both sides (if accessible) will keep the pin from coming out.

The reason I would not recommend this for your firearm is that you must damage the surfaced of your firearm in order to be successful.

My suggestion, as I have stated before is either:

1) insert a piece of wire into the roll pin (use a gauge that you must force into the pin), cut off the ends of the wire and you have basically created a solid pin.

2)As suggested by Mr Roc, strike the center of the roll pin with a center punch, either prior to insertion (to expand the roll pin) or after insertion(to expand just the ends of the roll pin).

Good luck, and try not to mar the finish on your firearm, you will never forgive yourself, or me, either.

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 12:22:29 PM »
Another way is to use an arbor press or drill press with a hardened pointed punch
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Offline high pockets

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 02:50:17 PM »
Have you even tried the new pin, yet?

This may all be moot if your old pin has merely been compressed, and the new pin, having never been used yet, may be a couple thousandths larger.  Have you micced the old and new pins?

If the new pin is .001 or .002 larger, you may not even have to consider staking the pin.
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Offline Mr. RoC

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 08:33:37 PM »
drill press with a hardened pointed punch

Nice one... thanks for the idea!

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 08:34:31 PM »
Have you even tried the new pin, yet?

This may all be moot if your old pin has merely been compressed, and the new pin, having never been used yet, may be a couple thousandths larger.  Have you micced the old and new pins?

If the new pin is .001 or .002 larger, you may not even have to consider staking the pin.

The new pin goes right through without any friction.

Offline high pockets

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 11:33:54 PM »
You know, another option would be to expand the roll pin.

Put a fairly small cold chisel in a vise, lay the split of the roll pin on top of the chisel edge and tap it onto the chisel with a hammer.  This would enlarge the slot and expand the roll pin.  Just don't go overboard.
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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 02:15:10 AM »
Sorry to ask, is it the right roll pin? Sounds off if it doesn't provide Any friction at all.

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Re: How to stake a roll pin????
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 12:06:23 AM »
Isn't the trigger pin actually a solid pin that has dimples on the end to be flared? At least that was what was in my both my cz pistols, not roll pins. I reused my old pin with some help from my wife. I reinserted the old pin and reflared the one end. I used two punches and my wife held one. Mark
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