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Offline Ma}{imus

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What would you have done?
« on: September 09, 2011, 01:51:18 PM »
I think most of us can relate to having some less than savory neighbors. The house kitty corner from us was sold and low and behold a bunch of 20-something young men moved in (a bit out of place for our neighborhood).  :-\ I wasn't sure what to think, but figured I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and approach the situation with cautious optimism.

Aside from them being home all of the time (do any of these guys work?), they apparently have aspirations to participate in the X-Games because their constantly practicing on their inline skates in their driveway (sometimes the street). Still not a huge bother, just annoying sometimes.

Well, the fun started several months back when they had a party and some of their intoxicated friends woke me up at about 1am while driving across my front lawn attempting to make a U-turn.  >:( I talked to them the next morning and they became agitated (borderline hostile), so I informed them that if they couldn't be courteous neighbors their next conversation would be with the police. That conversation ended with some choice words in my direction and a slammed door. I kept my cool and didn't yell or retaliate in any way.

Fast forward a few months...they decided to have some friends over and skate in the street with flood lights shortly after midnight. Normally I'd go out and say something, but there were 5 or 6 of them and I didn't know what level of intoxication I would be dealing with. I called the police. They showed up in short order and informed our neighbors that they needed to turn off the flood lights and pack it up for the night. After the cops left I heard a lot of choice complaints from them through my open bedroom window.

Finally, one week to the day after the skating incident my wife and I were sitting on the couch talking. It was about 10:30 pm. Beautiful spring weather, so the windows are open. We all of the sudden hear screaming, crashing, yelling, etc. I immediately get up to see what is going on. My wife encourages me not to go outside. It turns out that our friendly 20-somethings (about 6 of them) had a disagreement and were now threatening to kill each other. One had a knife, two others had shovels, and people were running in and out of the house with the aforementioned racket.

Here's the question...what would you do in this situation? They aren't on your property, several people (most likely intoxicated) are involved, some are armed visibly with knives and blunt objects (who knows what else), and someone may get severely injured or worse.

Here's what I did:

I called 911 and relayed everything I had seen, heard, and was currently seeing. I let the 911 operator know that I was armed, but would not respond unless the altercation moved to my property. We spoke for a couple of more minutes on the logistics of the situation and I was then asked to call again if anyone left or if the conflict escalated further. Police arrived in force (5 squad cars that I saw and at least 6 officers) shortly after I hung up. The broke up the fight, made a couple of arrests and since then things have been pretty quiet on our street. Would you have done anything differently?

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 02:25:59 PM »
Nope, you did exactly the right thing. You aren't law enforcement, so you aren't required to respond, and responding by yourself, no backup, no radio, nada, (note the cops themselves showed up cavalry style, in force), could have been VERY bad for you. Also, they would be positive you were the ones to call the police, instead of merely thinking it. If you have the resources, a small video camera pointed towards that house from an unused window might be something interesting, digital recording activity in the street.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 02:33:27 PM »
Thanks a-man. I've thought about what happened a lot. I'm glad nobody got seriously injured, but I always had in the back of mind if I should have done something more. I'm glad that all ended well and that our street is peaceful again for the time being (several months and counting).

Offline bozwell

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 02:54:37 PM »
Sorry you've had to go through that man.  It sounds like you handled everything correctly though.  Getting involved would only be a recipe for getting yourself into trouble, with them and potentially with the court system down the road.  You did the right thing by calling the police and then just watching out for your own.

That situation (trashy neighbors) is really one I'm trying to avoid and one of the reasons I'm looking to move into a fairly pretentious neighborhood next year, even though prices are inflated and there won't be much of a selection in my price range.  Those guys remind me of my grandfather's neighbors in Kentucky when I was growing up, although his neighbors weren't quite that bad.  Glad to hear you avoided that conflict and let's hope things remain quiet going forward.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 02:55:42 PM »
You weren't immediately threatened.  You prepared if it developed that you were.  You contacted the people responsible for maintaining public order, and they did their job.

Sounds right to me.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 06:17:10 PM »
Thanks for the feedback so far. I was pretty amped up on adrenaline when everything went down. It took hours for my heart rate to go back down. I'm just glad I was able to stay rational. You never really know until something happens.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 07:03:17 PM »
Perfectly done,  Imagine if the "new neighbors"  had the same control and restraint.  Oh, but then they wouldn't be PIAs

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 12:51:42 PM »
If you have the resources, a small video camera pointed towards that house from an unused window might be something interesting, digital recording activity in the street.
Update your insurance, and move small highly irreplaceable valuables/family heirlooms to a safe deposit box.

Yup, I agree completely w/ all responses (especially yours). But here's the sad part of the whole thing; we shouldn't have to worry about these things or hide away our valuables and other personal items. I'm only 42 and grew up in different suburban areas of NY and CT, some a little nicer than others. But even through high school, we left cars unlocked, front doors & windows open. And one of my favorites, not having to be home until the street lights came on!

Now we've got deadbolts, car alarms, and we "lock down" our houses both day & night (regardless if home or not). Total shame. I'm amazed at how low and fast we as a society have dropped. I'd love to find a nice neighborhood where I can go back to those days. I'm sure they exist, but how far do you have to travel for good work.
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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 05:44:16 PM »
You did the right thing.  I had a similar experience a number of years ago and it turned out the same after the police arrived.  The undesireables moved shortly afterwards.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 05:59:39 PM »
Any more encounters with the undesireables afterwards?

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 10:06:58 AM »
So far they've been quiet and keeping to themselves. It appears as though they've been scared straight. For now at least.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 01:59:24 PM »
Are they the owners or do they rent?  If they rent, you and your neighbors should be complaining to their landlord . . . some of this activity must violate the lease agreement.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 02:58:54 PM »
We had similar situation with the next door...finally resolved by contacting the owner, informing him of the unlawfull activity on his property.  good luck with the next renters....

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 03:46:21 PM »
I've looked them up with the county and one of them is listed as the owner. :'(  I'm not quite sure how since I don't think any of them work. I'm guessing their parents are co-signers on the loan.

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Re: What would you have done?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 09:34:08 PM »
We had that same situation at our old house, kitty corner across was a party house that Daddy bought for his kids, and it was terrible, cops got called all the time.
I live in a rental neighborhood now, and it's FAR quieter, go figure...