CZ 75B Kadet Qs

[hoghunter]

I just got my new CZ75B and am loving it. First gun that actually fits in my hands properly. Would love to let my young sons shoot the firearm (while properly supervised of course) and didn't even realize that there was a conversion kit available. At about the same cost of a Browning Buckmark Camper, do you feel that the conversion is worth the cost? Have there been any issues with switching back and forth from 9mm to .22lr? I've had "heavy" .22lr firearms before and they are world famous for not cycling properly due to the amount of blowback needed to reset the slide. Any thoughts, opinions are appreciated.

[Ma}{imus]

I think you'll find that most people who have used the Kadet conversion hit are quite impressed with it. I have one for my SP01 Tactical and think it was worth every penny. I haven't had any issues switching between 9mm and .22lr. I've put nearly 1,500 rds of .22lr through my Kadet kit with minimal issues (3 or 4 light strikes on Federal bulk ammo).

The Kadet conversion is a complete upper and depends on the frame for trigger, safety operation, and mag release. Everything else operates independent from the frame. With the stock adjustable sights, the Kadet kit is extremely accurate. I'm actually looking into getting another one with a threaded barrel.

Good luck with your decision. If you decide to get one I don't think you'll be disappointed.

[bozwell]

I don't have all the answers I'm afraid but I can give you my experiences with the Kadet slide.  I have a SP-01 Shadow that's had some custom work done to it and a Kadet slide that Angus' shop fit for use with it.  My Shadow is an absolute pleasure to shoot and perhaps my favorite thing about the Kadet slide is that it uses the exact same grip and trigger that my Shadow has.  My friend has a Browning Buckmark that shoots very well but it's just not comfortable for me to shoot - I always try to grip it too high and the safety rubs into my hand.  On the contrary, my Shadow is a perfect fit for me and has a wonderful trigger to boot.  I will say though that since I lightened the springs up on the Shadow, I've had to stick with Federal for my .22lr ammo.  With CCI mini mags, I end up with about 1/10 light strikes.  Still, that's not a big problem for me - I could easily fix that by putting heavier springs in it but I prefer the trigger the way it is now and Federal Target shoots just fine.  I've put about 600 rounds of Federal .22 through the Kadet in the last month without a single problem.

I will add - they do make some really nice loaders for the Ruckmark and Ruger 22's.  If you go the Kadet route, I'd pick up the modified uplula that Den makes.

[myles]

Think of it this way.  If you have a Kadett kit and do a trigger/action job, you get a free one thrown in.  After the great experience with the Kadett, I purchased a Marvel kit for my 1911.  I now have no dedicated .22 pistols; I do have a S&W 617 understudy to my -66 and -629.

The Kadett is very accurate and likes standard velocity ammunition.  Mine is very happy with Federal Champion.

I went through 190 rounds of .22 at the range this week.  Using a reduced power 15 lb mainspring, I had four light strikes; all fired with a subsequent double action strike.  The factory mainspring would likely give zero light strikes.  On the bright side, the occasional light strike is great training for trigger control and immediate action drills.

[bozwell]

I only saw light strikes once I dropped down to the 13 lb mainspring.  Thankfully, mine still eats up Federal though without complaint, so I get the best of both worlds.

One of the most relaxing activities for me on a weekend is to take my Shadow/Kadet combo to the range and put some tunes on through my electronic ear muffs.  I can shoot that way for hours at a time without feeling like I'm pissing away excessive amounts of $$$.  I wasn't a fan of the light strikes but that's an easy tweak to a spring.  Perhaps they should offer an extended firing pin for the Kadets, haha, if that's even feasible.

[Ma}{imus]

Good points on the light strikes. I run a 13# mainspring and that likely has to do with my light strikes (though they are very few). Love the Kadet conversion though. Well worth the price of admission.

[AZ_CZ]

You will love the kadet kit.  Biggest problem is the mag; only 10 rnds, hard to load without a dedicated piece of equipment, and expensive. I bought a P-22 for my daughter, but all she shoots is the kadet or the Ruger target - she is darn good with both.

[Ma}{imus]

Biggest problem is the mag; only 10 rnds, hard to load without a dedicated piece of equipment

That's where Den's modified UpLula loader comes in handy. Also well worth the price of admission.

http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=24219.msg126422.msg#126422

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[DenStinett]

Hoghunter:
As everyone else has said, the Kadet Kit, mounted on a well tuned frame, will be one of the most accurate .22lr pistols (of same barrel length) you will ever shoot?.And FUN TOO
You will find that the Kadet upper sees more range time than its large bore counterpart
It may cost as much (or more) as a Buckmark, but worth every penny you?ll spend
Shoot safe, Den S

[hoghunter]

Hoghunter:
As everyone else has said, the Kadet Kit, mounted on a well tuned frame,  Shoot safe, Den S

Den- what do you mean by "mounted on a well tuned frame"? I have a 75B and thought you could just install the slide. Is there more that needs to be done? Thanks for your guidance.
Chris

[DenStinett]

Hoghunter:
What I mean by tuned is;
Have a good Pistolsmith do a trigger job on your host frame
i.e. my CZ75B-SA frame hosts my Kadet Kit 90+% of the time
It has a 3.5 pound trigger after CZ's shop tuned it
Having a good trigger makes the pistol a true pleasure to shoot
Hope this puts you at ease
Shoot safe, Den S

[buskerpcr]

Had two Buckmarks one with open sights , one with optic sight.
Got the kadet kit  put a laser grip on the 75B
now I have a gun with both open & optic sights

Sold both Buckmarks  - I find that  for my kadet kit to cycle  the 22 ammo has to be at least 1150 fps stuff

the Wolf Match grade ammo's wont work with my kadet kit  as well as SKS standard .
FYI

[tekarra]

Hello hoghunter and welcome aboard.
A Kadet Kit is almost a necessity for any cZ75 owner.  Since getting a Kit my Ruger 22/45 has seen a lot less use.  As noted previously, magazines are frustrating at times and expensive.  I narrowed the plunger on a HKS loading tool and it works quite well.