NORINCO NZ85B 9mm

[lytninbug]

hello, i just wanna share my new NORINCO NZ85B 9mm . this is my second CZ clone, the first one is a Tanfoglio-Armscor Pocket 22. the gun is 100% reliable with all sort of ammo. since its brand new, it has  heavy trigger, some sharp edges, hard to rack the slide and hard to load 15 rds, the bluing is very nice and it's really an old school forged steel pistol. actually even the parts are made from forged steel, the barrel is hard chrome inside out . aside from the single slide release and different cocking serration its almost an exact copy of the cz85, the inside is the same. heres a photo

[czsuby]

Nice!  Thanks for the pics.

[Bret]

lytninbug, where are you located?  We can't get these in the US because President Klinton banned the importation of firearms from China.

[jwc007]

Congratulations on your new NZ-85 and Welcome to the Clone Side of the Forum!

Looks very nice!  Let us know how it shoots for you.

As for Magazine Loading, you NEED an UpLula Magazine Loader:
http://youtu.be/Zos_7e-c4t0

Or at least a Magazine Loader of some  kind.  Safariland and HKS have nice ones too and I have used them in the past.  But the UpLula Magazine loader is the best so far.

[tekarra]

Hello lytninbug and welcome to the forum.
Nice Norinco, you must live in The True North.

[lytninbug]

hello to all, thank you for the warm welcome. i'm from the philippines, it the cheapest 9mm cz clone available. nothing beats a all steel handgun .  i know that norinco is band in the usa and the nearest store for these handguns is across the border canada , anyway, the gun is  really heavy, compare them to the tanfoglio-armscor map1 or the cz85b or some other clones, the metal is really dense due to the hammer forged construction. you can easily destinguised between forged and cast by looking at the metal. there are grain marks running across the steel.
actually, all of our local gunsmith complain whenever they make modification these guns. they say it eats up their cutting tool .
i'm planning on a trigger job and will keep you all posted on it and on my firing sessions.  thanks again

[lytninbug]

hello again, i ave finally finished a trigger job on my nz85b. i followed the instruction on how to do a trigger job. te original trigger is really heavy and its about 8lbs. now its between 4-3 lbs. here are te pics that i took'


this is the disassembled gun, i didnt touch the mag release buttom


the parts that i polished sear, hammer and trigger assembly


the hammer forged frame. note, tool marks


the most time consuming part to be assembled, trigger assembly. i bent the trigger spring in order to lightened the trigger pull, only the front part of the spring not the one that return the trigger on its original position. adjusted to 1/8" distance from the original spring tension.


the plastic hand guard i stippled it coz its a bit slick, used a soldering iron and now its rough as sandpaper.

NOTE: i only sand a little bit on the engagement part of the sear and hammer. used 1000 grit sandpaper and used also metal polished after. if you removed too much, you might experience a hammer fall when you rack the slide causing it to strike the firing pin and firing the gun.also i did not remove any material on the hammer spring, it might cause a hard primer strike so leave it be

[tekarra]

Excellent post lytninbug.

[jwc007]

Thanx for the additional pix and detail ! 

On the top Frame Barrel Supports you might want to hit that a bit with some 320 wet/dry to remove some of the milling tool marks, if they are really rough.  Those marks will hold oil though.

[Bret]

it the cheapest 9mm cz clone available.

How does the price compare to a regular CZ-75B?  1/2 the price, or 2/3 the price, or 3/4 the price, etc.  I'm just trying to get an idea of the relative pricing.

[lytninbug]

the price is really cheap, let us say  price for a norinco nz85b unit including license is around $404.00 (P17,500) while a cz85 including license is about $1,600 (P70,000) here in the Philippines.
 thats how much these cz handguns cost. so i say, norinco is very cheap but very tough. actually i had some polymer handguns in the past ( walther p99, glock 17, 21, taurus millenium series, hs2000 and steyr ma1 series ) but was really disappointed on how the polymer tends to get damaged from abuse. they were very reliable but nothing really compares with real steel. the feel of it is just different, if you knoe what i mean.

[Bret]

Wow!  It's basically 1/4 the cost of a CZ.  If Klinton had not banned them, they'd be super cheap here in the US.  I know what you're saying about the feel of steel in your hands.  Plastic isn't the same.  However, if you carry a gun all day long, lighter plastic guns feel better in that regard.  I like aluminum framed guns.  You kind of get the best of both worlds.

[Spad2008]

Lightening Bug, sure enjoyed your post and the pictures, plus your comments on the modifications you did. Thank You much, Spad

[lytninbug]

to bret, the nz85b is really a reliable and solidly built  handgun since its a clone of a very effective side arm. the design is also  good. the lineage goes back to the high power pistol up to the cz design. plus the forge manufacturing for life time of abuse. its just a shame that people tend to look down on these chinese made side arms. its like a diamond in the rough  , my opinion only okay.
and to spad2008, well i dont have much to do lately so might as well do some tinkering. i really enjoyed being part of this forum and i would like to thank everyone. the info modification is fantastic. i hope my contribution will help others. now all i have to do is save enough money to buy some ammo at really put this puppy to work so i can put  more pictures and data in order for everyone to see what a norinco nz85b will and will not do.

[Bret]

its just a shame that people tend to look down on these chinese made side arms.

I agree.  Chinese AK's were also looked down upon by some because they were so inexpensive.  Now they're recognized as some of the highest quality AK's available.