anyone ever shoot +p+ ?

[Reroye]

Was wondering if any of you have ever shot any +p+ in a cz 75 sp-01?

[Josh Ramsey]

Shoot it in my Shadow all the time

[Reroye]

Cool I have a shadow also and a friend of mine gave me some Federal 115gr +P+ 9bple and I was not sure if it was safe to shoot.

[marine6680]

Its a gimmick... +p is regulated (BTW only certain calibers have official +p specs) and +p+ is not a recognized standard.

This means the rounds may be higher pressure than +p, or it may not.

In the end... its just marketing.

[Wobbly]

Its a gimmick... +p is regulated (BTW only certain calibers have official +p specs) and +p+ is not a recognized standard.

This means the rounds may be higher pressure than +p, or it may not.

In the end... its just marketing.

Very well stated.

[Josh Ramsey]

Its a gimmick... +p is regulated (BTW only certain calibers have official +p specs) and +p+ is not a recognized standard.

This means the rounds may be higher pressure than +p, or it may not.

In the end... its just marketing.

I don't feed it a regular diet, it mostly gets 125 n Zero bullets and 3 gains of VV N120, but never had an issue at all and the guys at the shop gave a thumbs up.

[marine6680]

Its a gimmick... +p is regulated (BTW only certain calibers have official +p specs) and +p+ is not a recognized standard.

This means the rounds may be higher pressure than +p, or it may not.

In the end... its just marketing.

I don't feed it a regular diet, it mostly gets 125 n Zero bullets and 3 gains of VV N120, but never had an issue at all and the guys at the shop gave a thumbs up.

If you are loading your own, and are confident, then its your call.

Its just the factory stuff that is all hype.

[jwc007]

I don't feed it a regular diet, it mostly gets 125 n Zero bullets and 3 gains of VV N120, but never had an issue at all and the guys at the shop gave a thumbs up.

Ummmm?  VV N120 is a Rifle Powder.  I'm thinking you mean VV N320.

As to your original question, I generally avoid +P+ Ammunition, but I have used/tested the Winchester 115 grain +P+ 115 grn JHP loadings that used to be Illinois State Police Issue for a local small PD.  Velocities from my Taurus PT92 and Tanfoglio TA90 averaged some 1320 fps.  Velocities from my SigArms P226 averaged some 1290 fps.  The standard velocity equivalent was 1230 fps and the PD involved decided that the +P+ level ammunition was NOT worth the extra cost and wear and tear on their officers Pistols.

Now they all carry .40's.

IMO, +P level is as far as I care to go and I fire only enough of that to test reliability and accuracy.  Standard pressures work fine for everything else.

[jameslovesjammie]

In all honesty, a full size, all steel gun can handle limited use of +p+ ammo.  However, it WILL accelerate wear on the gun.  I wound not recommend it, however, in compact and sub-compact handguns.  I'm not talking about guns like the 75B Compact...I'm talking about true compact concealed carry guns, like a Ruger LC9.  Just not enough meat on a small gun like that for increased pressure.

[Josh Ramsey]

I don't feed it a regular diet, it mostly gets 125 n Zero bullets and 3 gains of VV N120, but never had an issue at all and the guys at the shop gave a thumbs up.

Ummmm?  VV N120 is a Rifle Powder.  I'm thinking you mean VV N320.

As to your original question, I generally avoid +P+ Ammunition, but I have used/tested the Winchester 115 grain +P+ 115 grn JHP loadings that used to be Illinois State Police Issue for a local small PD.  Velocities from my Taurus PT92 and Tanfoglio TA90 averaged some 1320 fps.  Velocities from my SigArms P226 averaged some 1290 fps.  The standard velocity equivalent was 1230 fps and the PD involved decided that the +P+ level ammunition was NOT worth the extra cost and wear and tear on their officers Pistols.

Now they all carry .40's.

IMO, +P level is as far as I care to go and I fire only enough of that to test reliability and accuracy.  Standard pressures work fine for everything else.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, N120 is the premier pistol powder for the leading competitive shooters and I highly advise you follow suit if you hope to keep up with those already using this incredible new formula.
Good day sir!!
















 

[Josh Ramsey]

I don't feed it a regular diet, it mostly gets 125 n Zero bullets and 3 gains of VV N120, but never had an issue at all and the guys at the shop gave a thumbs up.

Ummmm?  VV N120 is a Rifle Powder.  I'm thinking you mean VV N320.

As to your original question, I generally avoid +P+ Ammunition, but I have used/tested the Winchester 115 grain +P+ 115 grn JHP loadings that used to be Illinois State Police Issue for a local small PD.  Velocities from my Taurus PT92 and Tanfoglio TA90 averaged some 1320 fps.  Velocities from my SigArms P226 averaged some 1290 fps.  The standard velocity equivalent was 1230 fps and the PD involved decided that the +P+ level ammunition was NOT worth the extra cost and wear and tear on their officers Pistols.

Now they all carry .40's.

IMO, +P level is as far as I care to go and I fire only enough of that to test reliability and accuracy.  Standard pressures work fine for everything else.

We get some free stuff in at the range from time to time I shoot, but I won't pay money for the stuff when I can simply make a better round myself.

We have one guy there that comes in and drops a bill or 2 at a time to practice with it as that is what he carries...to each his own.

[1SOW]

Josh are you shooting 9mm Major with the Vit n120?

[jwc007]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, N120 is the premier pistol powder for the leading competitive shooters and I highly advise you follow suit if you hope to keep up with those already using this incredible new formula.
Good day sir!!

Now that was uncalled for. 

VihtaVouri N120 is listed as a Rifle Powder.  Plain and simple.  Number 73 on the Burn Rate Chart, between H4198 and H322, which are well known Rifle Powders.
http://www.natchezss.com/Category.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=VI&prodID=VIN1201&prodTitle=N120%201LB%20RIFLE%20POWDER

Behave, or you tempt my Dark Side.

[jameslovesjammie]

Lapua/Viht list no load data for a 9mm and N120.  If anyone was going to have off the wall load data, it would be them.  I would suggest you switch to N320, as suggested above.  N120 is NOT SAFE in a 9mm.

http://www.lapua.com/en/products/reloading/vihtavuori-reloading-data/relodata/6/34

http://www.lapua.com/en/products/reloading/vihtavuori-powders

[Josh Ramsey]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, N120 is the premier pistol powder for the leading competitive shooters and I highly advise you follow suit if you hope to keep up with those already using this incredible new formula.
Good day sir!!

Now that was uncalled for. 

VihtaVouri N120 is listed as a Rifle Powder.  Plain and simple.  Number 73 on the Burn Rate Chart, between H4198 and H322, which are well known Rifle Powders.
http://www.natchezss.com/Category.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=VI&prodID=VIN1201&prodTitle=N120%201LB%20RIFLE%20POWDER

Behave, or you tempt my Dark Side.

Haha, please tell me you knew I was joking?

The sunglasses smiley face?

....sigh...sarcasm translates poorly in forums
It was just a typo