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Offline HikerToo

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How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« on: September 18, 2012, 03:40:16 PM »
I have a CZ 75BD 9mm and was thinking of getting the kadet kit, but figured it would take 2.5 years to pay for itself based on 9mm( .20 cents per round)  vs .22 ammo price( .5 cents per round), rounds shot per month( est 100), and cost of kit.( $400)
.15 saved on each shot, x100 per month, x 30 months
Thats also assuming you would shoot the same amount of .22 as you were 9mm, if you triple your .22 shooting because its cheaper, you may not really be saving any money, but would get more shots for less money.
Does that sound about right?
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 06:19:24 PM »
If you bought the Kadet kit, you would shoot a LOT more rounds per month. Buy it because it's an awesome gun in it's own right and will improve your skills when shooting 9mm. Might save you bacon someday, and that would be priceless.
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 06:27:07 PM »
I think it all depends on you and what you shoot
I just bought a 550 Round box of Federal 22lr for $21.50, which is approx $0.04 per Round
If you reload for 9mm, you?re looking at approx $0.15 per Round
If you buy new, $0.30 per Round
Say you save $0.15 per Round
OK, a Kadet Kit costs $350.00
That says after you shoot 2,400 Rounds, you?ve paid for your Kadet Kit
At your rate, that's two years
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 07:05:44 PM »
If you bought the Kadet kit, you would shoot a LOT more rounds per month. Buy it because it's an awesome gun in it's own right and will improve your skills when shooting 9mm.

This. Awesome on both points.

I don't have a Kadet kit yet, but I have a S&W 422 with 5 magazines.  When I go to the range, I typically shoot 2-300 through this gun alone, and I usually take 5-6 guns at a time.  If I take just the .22, I shoot at least a brick.

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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 07:29:33 PM »
The basic math is ok but this is like the analysis people do to justify reloading.  If you enjoy shooting, this is a way to get more trigger time for roughly the same amount of money, over time. 
You will probably end up shooting twice the number of rounds on your range sessions (but instead of burning through 100 9mm's, you may only shoot 50 and the rest will be .22's.)
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 08:18:39 PM »
A Kadet Kit will NEVER pay for itself, but can lead to ultimate satisfaction and personal Bliss.

You see if you buy a Kadet you will shoot more and your ammo costs will rise.

But since you shoot more you will get better,

Now that you are shooting better you want to shoot more often.

Now you will want to buy a mag loader.

You will plateau and decide on expensive upgrades on your Frame so you can keep improving.

Now you are really shooting well and start shooting in local competitions

This will mean the purchase of additional mags and gear - lots of gear

You do so well that you start shooting in the 9mm leagues also

This leads to increased fees and additional ammo costs.

You will also need to buy a backup gun (or 2) and it will need upgrades.

To reduce 9mm ammo costs and tailor a load to your 9mm you buy a full tilt Dillion reloader setup because that's what Angus uses.

You are now doing so well in competition that you are asked to join the CZ Team.

When you go to Mesa AZ to meet everyone at CZ Custom you'll decide to head over to the Eley/Tenex shooting tunnel.

Once you find a Lot that matches your Kadet you will buy a pallet and have it drop shipped home.

When you buy a pallet of ammo they will take you to lunch in Scottsdale so after lunch you will go to Dillon and buy a Strong plate for your 650 unit.

While you are there signing autographs you will meet the Dillon calender model who loves men that are masculine enough to shoot 22LR.

After World comps you will get married and it will lead to ultimate personal bliss.

Can anyone put a price on that?

But that's my story, yours may be different.

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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 08:28:24 PM »
A Kadet Kit will NEVER pay for itself, but can lead to ultimate satisfaction and personal Bliss.

You see if you buy a Kadet you will shoot more and your ammo costs will rise.

But since you shoot more you will get better,

Now that you are shooting better you want to shoot more often.

Now you will want to buy a mag loader.

You will plateau and decide on expensive upgrades on your Frame so you can keep improving.

Now you are really shooting well and start shooting in local competitions

This will mean the purchase of additional mags and gear - lots of gear

You do so well that you start shooting in the 9mm leagues also

This leads to increased fees and additional ammo costs.

You will also need to buy a backup gun (or 2) and it will need upgrades.

To reduce 9mm ammo costs and tailor a load to your 9mm you buy a full tilt Dillion reloader setup because that's what Angus uses.

You are now doing so well in competition that you are asked to join the CZ Team.

When you go to Mesa AZ to meet everyone at CZ Custom you'll decide to head over to the Eley/Tenex shooting tunnel.

Once you have a a lot that matches your Kadet you will buy a pallet and have it drop shipped home.

When you buy a pallet of ammo they will take you to lunch in Scottsdale so after lunch you will go to Dillon and buy a Strong plate for your 650 unit.

While you are there signing autographs you will meet the Dillon calender model who loves men that are masculine enough to shoot 22LR.

After World comps you will get married and it will lead to ultimate personal bliss.

Can anyone put a price on that?

But that's my story, yours may be different.
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 06:49:40 AM »
AZ_CZ--best reply ever!

My own is that I never planned on shooting 12k rounds in 6 months, but I did.  I never thought I could learn to shoot 1-1/2" groups at 25 yards through 3 different pistols, but I did.  I never thought I would be looking for a 22 upper for an AR but I am.  I never thought I would be using a spotting scope at a 50 yard pistol range to see how many holes are in an 8" plate out of 10 rounds fired but I do.

My conclusion is that a 22 will cost you money, but you will get more bang for each buck.

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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 07:12:40 AM »
It appears in your calculation that you are ignoring the value of the pistol or conversion kit.  For example, if your calculation says the pistol or kit pays for itself in 2 years, but after 1 year the pistol or kit retains half its cost, doesn't the pistol or kit pay for itself in only 1 year?
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 10:22:34 AM »
It appears in your calculation that you are ignoring the value of the pistol or conversion kit.  For example, if your calculation says the pistol or kit pays for itself in 2 years, but after 1 year the pistol or kit retains half its cost, doesn't the pistol or kit pay for itself in only 1 year?

Have you checked the prices of used Kadet Kits lately? The kit I purchased from CZ-Custom almost 4 years ago would bring 100% of what I paid for it should I put it on the market. There are few investments that hold their value as well.

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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 10:32:48 AM »
OK, sounds like you guys have thought of this before....seems every hobby has its addictions.
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 10:50:32 AM »
Hiker,

My shooting improved dramatically once I bought a KK.

Now when I go shooting, I usually shoot 4-5 times as much .22's as 9mm.  I could NOT afford to shoot as much if I used 9mm exclusively.  So I am content to use it on my P-01, 75D, 75C, and SP-01 Target. 

If you are determined to do a cost analysis, better add in the additional cost of a few KK magazines too!  You will definitely want more than two once you start shooting a KK!

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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 11:30:57 AM »
Have you checked the prices of used Kadet Kits lately? The kit I purchased from CZ-Custom almost 4 years ago would bring 100% of what I paid for it should I put it on the market. There are few investments that hold their value as well.

Then the kit pays for itself instantly.  When the Obamanomics inflatio  kicks into high gear, you might be making money by shooting .22 LR.
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 02:14:17 PM »
By my calculations:
9mm = $12.95 per 50 (sales tax included, Wal-Mart Federal) = $0.26 per round.
.22lr = $212.80 per 7500 (shipping included, great Cabela's deal a while back on 325 count federal bulk) = $0.0284 per round.
So every time I pull the trigger on my Kadet, I'm saving $0.2316.
My Kadet Kit cost me $360.00.
$360.00/$0.2316 = 1555 (rounding up, it's not like I can shoot 0.4 rounds :)) rounds to break even.

At least that's the way I see it.
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Re: How long before Kadet Kit pays for itself....
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 06:30:45 PM »
I have so much more fun shooting now that I have my Kadet kit. It was always fun before but now for cheap I can mindlessly plink targets for a long while and not worry about how much money i'm spending.