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Offline Geobob

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Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« on: March 05, 2013, 09:52:14 AM »
Hello everyone

I am very interested in adding the CZ RAMI in 9mm to my aresenal, but have some questions.   Research online indicates some potential issues with this handgun, and I wanted to see what experience you folks have with it.  Here are the issues I heard:

(1) Fingers pinched between magazine and grip (I assume while shooting and not when inserting mag)
(2) Rough or gritty trigger pull that takes 1000s rounds to smooth out
(3) Roll pin failure in relatively new weapons (from this forum)

Please let me know if you've encountered any of these issues, how prevalent they seem to be, and how easy to fix.  I really like all else I hear about this weapon, but want to do my DD before spending the money.  Thanks in advance for your comments and guidance!

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 10:17:49 AM »
I've owned a 9mm Rami for six or eight years and have never had any of the problems you mentioned. The DA/SA pull was pretty much the same as on other CZ's and better than on other makes I've owned. The gun has been totally reliable, too.

That said, I sent it off to CZ Custom for their single action only/competition hammer/straight trigger conversion, and trigger pull is now exceptional (2 1/2 lbs.).

But even if you're not inclined to have work done on a Rami, they're still exceptional guns.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 08:23:05 PM »
I've not had any of these issues.

I've been carrying an '09 since '09.  It is my every day carry, and it is exceptional for that role.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 10:07:28 PM »
Only Had mine for a little over a year but have better than 500 rounds through it with no issues. Trigger was very nice right out of the box.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 11:11:24 PM »
(1) Fingers pinched between magazine and grip (I assume while shooting and not when inserting mag)
(2) Rough or gritty trigger pull that takes 1000s rounds to smooth out
(3) Roll pin failure in relatively new weapons (from this forum)

Welcome to the forum, GeoBob from Mudlogger James!  I just came into possession of a used '03 RAMI.  Here's my thoughts on your questions:

1. I haven't had any "pinch" issues with the magazine while firing either the flush fitting 10 round magazine or the 14 round extended magazine.  I do have large hands (XL gloves).  The 10 round magazine fits my hands better with my little finger resting underneath the grip like shooting a single action revolver.  The extended magazine (for me) needs to be just a little longer to comfortably fit all my fingers on it.  They do fit, but it isn't as comfortable as a full size CZ grip frame.

2. My RAMI is used and has what I would consider a good trigger.  New CZ's typically take around 2-400 rounds to break in.  The firing mechanism parts are hardened steel and take a little longer than other guns to establish a wear pattern with each other.  That doesn't mean they have a bad trigger, but the trigger will get much better with use.  You can expedite this by having the gun sent out for a trigger job, or doing one yourself.  It isn't that difficult, and there are several good posts on this forum about which parts to polish and how to go about doing it.

3. I haven't seen any issues with roll pins in any of my CZ's (75B .40, 75B 9mm, RAMI, and P-07 Duty) or any of my friends/family CZ's (Tactical Sport, 75BD Police, .40 Compact).  Does that mean it can't happen?  No.  I just haven't seen it in my fleet.

Hope this helps!  If you have any more questions please feel free to ask!

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm - Price?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 12:08:52 AM »
Thank you all for the very positive feedback - it is what I was hoping to hear.  Have a chance to buy a like-new alloy frame RAMI (9mm) circa 2008.  Any idea what a good price is for one of those these crazy days?
Geologist Bob
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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm - Price?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 12:19:21 AM »
Thank you all for the very positive feedback - it is what I was hoping to hear.  Have a chance to buy a like-new alloy frame RAMI (9mm) circa 2008.  Any idea what a good price is for one of those these crazy days?

A "good" price is pretty relative right now.  I personally would say if you could find a like new/new for under $600, that not too bad. I found my 08 NIB RAMI BD for that range a couple months ago, very few on gunbroker (1), just depends on how patient you can be. Supposedly there will be more stock of new RAMIs in the spring, but not sure of the specifics.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 10:23:24 PM »
Well, I bid on a "like new" RAMI, 9mm, alloy frame, with two 14-rd mags.  Price is now $760 ahd still rising.  Frankly, from what I've read, etc., this is craziness.  I'll be patient.  If anyone knows of a RAMI - preferrably a BD model new or used - for a realistic price, please let me know!
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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2013, 10:32:06 PM »
Keep an eye on Damascus Gun Shop.  They aren't gouging and ship for free.  A RAMI goes for $529, a RAMI BD for $556 when in stock.  When they get shipments, they go quickly.
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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2013, 10:37:15 PM »
I would have backed out about $200 ago.  I bought a 2003 model in good condition with (2) 10 round mags and (1) 14 round magazine for $545.  Six months ago, it would have been much too high.  But I wanted one and couldn't find a new one.  Plus the magazines are going for almost $50 a piece, so I can justify paying new price for one.

Keep an eye on the Swapping and Selling section on here.  You will typically find better prices than online auctions, and people here tend to take good care of their firearms.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2013, 10:53:38 PM »
WOW!  That was insane, $815?!?
That will be around/over $900 after shipping and FFL fees...

Good job not getting caught up in it, waiting sucks... Until you find what you want for a fair price, then it is all worth it. Good luck and I'll help keep an eye out for you as well. I believe Damascus has a waiting list that you can get on, might be worth the call.

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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 03:52:03 PM »
Thanks guys!  Yeh - $815 final price on that auction for a non-BD RAMI....unbelievable.  I was long gone once the price got over $600.  I'll get on Damascus Gun Shop's list and post WTB on in this forum's section.  Please do let me know of any used or new RAMI BDs that may be available - please PM me!
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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 05:20:33 PM »
i had a poly version with 3-5 hundred rounds with no problems . i now have an alloy with 600 rds and is trouble free .
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Re: Question on CZ RAMI 9mm
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 12:00:59 AM »