CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical --> Both Safety AND Decocker Function?

[wjoehewitt]

Hi!

I'm thinking about becoming a future CZ owner, but I need some help in understanding the function of the safety and decocker so I can decide on my first CZ purchase.

I have a 9mm Ruger P85 MKII that has a safety AND decocker function.  When moving from 'hot' to 'safe' the hammer is automatically decocked.  Pulling the trigger on this DA/SA handgun when safe does not engage the hammer.  So, 'safe' means the hammer is down and the trigger is not engaged.  When 'hot' it is DA/SA.

Can someone tell me if this is the same way the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical works?  I've read a number of postings on this topic and it still isn't clear to me what will happen on this model if you pull the trigger after engaging the decocker (I'm thinking a Double-Action BANG from the half-cocked hammer position, or is there a firing pin block?).  I'd really like to know exactly how this works before going any further on the CZ path.

Sorry if this is a simple question, but I'm unable to find one of these at my LGS to try.  So, I was hoping that this forum might be able to help.

Thanks!

[theundeadelvis]

Tactical has no safety. Decocker drops the hammer to a pseudo half cocked position, but if you pull the trigger, you will get a slightly shorter than da trigger pull and a bang. I believe there is a firing pin block too.

[Dekkan]

I agree with elvis, however I'm not sure about the lack of a firing pin block.

[wjoehewitt]

The CZ site lists the following features for this handgun:

• Decocking Lever
• Safety Stop on Hammer
• Firing Pin Safety

I guess I'm unsure as to the difference between the last two.

If the SP-01 Tactical has no real 'safety' (pull the trigger with a round chambered and you get a BANG), then how does the CZ 75 SP-01 non-Tactical model work?  What if you deploy the safety with the hammer cocked and then pull the trigger what happens?  Or, uncocked with the safety on and pull the trigger?

Thanks in advance for all of the great CZ knowledge!

[jabbermurph]

the SP-01 w/manual safety works "cocked and locked", rack the round in, hammer down, safety on.....you can also drop the hammer to a 1/4 cocked position, or hammer down by holding the hammer and releasing it by pulling the trigger and slowly letting it down (VERY CAREFULLY)....i believe both the manual and the tactical have firing pin blocks......

[JimThornTX]

I have a Ruger P95 so I know what you're talking about having a safety and decocker combined.

CZ's either have a manual safety or a decocker. They don't have both combined.

[James1]

Welcome from Australia mate.

[harkamus]

Or, uncocked with the safety on and pull the trigger?

Not sure if all CZ 75s are like this, but the Shadow manual states that you should not engage the safety when the firearm is uncocked because you may damage some of the trigger components.

I paid quite a bit for my Accu-shadow, so I do not intend on trying to pop the safety up when it's uncocked. DA trigger pull, even with a trigger job, is still 8.1 pounds for me. I don't feel unsafe with the firearm.

[1SOW]

(I'm thinking a Double-Action BANG from the half-cocked hammer position, or is there a firing pin block?).

Correct.  Like a SIG P-series DA/SA.  Decocker lowers it to half-cock (+/-).  If the "trigger is pulled", it'll shoot.

And yes,  the FP block stops the FP from striking the cartridge in any condition unless the "trigger is pulled"---like when a gun is dropped or struck on the hammer.

[Warb]

Not sure if all CZ 75s are like this, but the Shadow manual states that you should not engage the safety when the firearm is uncocked because you may damage some of the trigger components.

I paid quite a bit for my Accu-shadow, so I do not intend on trying to pop the safety up when it's uncocked. DA trigger pull, even with a trigger job, is still 8.1 pounds for me. I don't feel unsafe with the firearm.

This isn't even possible on a stock CZ. You can engage the safety at half-cock on a shadow or stock that has one of the aftermarket parts (I think it's the hammer, but maybe the sear). On a stock 75B or SP-01, the safety won't budge until the hammer is full-cock.

[harkamus]

Not sure if all CZ 75s are like this, but the Shadow manual states that you should not engage the safety when the firearm is uncocked because you may damage some of the trigger components.

I paid quite a bit for my Accu-shadow, so I do not intend on trying to pop the safety up when it's uncocked. DA trigger pull, even with a trigger job, is still 8.1 pounds for me. I don't feel unsafe with the firearm.

This isn't even possible on a stock CZ. You can engage the safety at half-cock on a shadow or stock that has one of the aftermarket parts (I think it's the hammer, but maybe the sear). On a stock 75B or SP-01, the safety won't budge until the hammer is full-cock.

Thanks for confirming my beliefs. Always good to know what could damage a firearm. Good thing I didn't try to force the safety up. I know I tried to engage it when I first got it. Then I read the manual and found mentioning of not doing this with the hammer on the slide or in half cock.