Has anyone tried the CZ 17 round mags?

[davekoch]

Has anyone tried these mags from CZ?

The price is a little steep, but it would sure be cool to have 17 rounds of .40 even if the mag does stick out the bottom of the grip.

Quote:CZ 75 Standard/M/TS cal. .40 S&W 17-rounds
[11171]         $45.0

 

[gunzrfunz]

Other then saving yourself a wee bit of time reloading at the range, what is the point? I mean, if you're shooting a .40s&w in a self-defense condition, if you need 6-7 MORE rounds..then most likely you haven't hit nor will you hit what your shooting at anyway. Just my opinion.

[Walt-Sherrill]

Those mags for for the large-framed (older) ISPC and new Tactical Sport models and won't fit ijn a standard 75B or 40B.   The mags are much too big.

[davekoch]

Grr! I already ordered them. The description said they'd fit a "standard" CZ75.  

 How's CZ's return policy? Maybe I'll trade them back for some 9mm hi-caps for my 75B. Anybody every have to send something back for exchange?

[Walt-Sherrill]

The "Standard" (capital "S") is a specific model -- the IPSC   Standard, mentioned along with the Tactical Sport, basically a newer version of the same gun.   You might try calling to cancel your order.

[davekoch]

Quote: You might try calling to cancel your order.

Yea, I would have, but they had already confirmed they shipped.

Quote:The "Standard" (capital "S" )  is a specific model -- the IPSC Standard, mentioned along with the Tactical Sport, basically a newer version of the same gun.

 Boy, that is a misleading description. They should have made that clearer.

 Oh well, I'm sure they'll give me store credit. I'll probably just have to pay shipping.

[Walt-Sherrill]

Misleading?  Not really; you just didn't read it closely enough. <grin>

You should've asked your question before you bought...

You'll notice it didn't say 75B.  The 75 (IPSC) Standard was a predecessor to the new Tactical Sport.   If you visit the CZ-USA website you'll find the TS.  All IPSC-type guns, no firing pin blocks (hence no "B" in the nomeclature) and all designed for IPSC competition.

I wouldn't really expect to fit 17 rounds into a mag for a gun originally designed to hold a maximum of 12 (10, really) rounds.   Where are those 5 or 7 extra rounds going to go?   It would take a wider mag to hold the extra rounds, and a longer one, too.  None of these mags have a lot of wasted space in them, any more -- since the hi-cap ban went away.

But, look on the bright side of it -- if that's the only mistake you make in messing with guns, it'll be a cheap learning experience and well worth the money.

The 40B can generally use any 10 round .40 mag made for the 75B and EAA mags for the .41 AE round will work too -- but you may have to tweak the top rear of those mags.

These other mags won't look good in the 40B, cause it the 40B has an angled grip bottom, and 40B mags have a special baseplate to fill what would be a gap with a no-40B mag. The other mags will leave you with an unsightly gap.  They'll still work, but won't look as pretty.  (Unless you just buy some 40B baseplates, and install them... then you get extra rounds and good looks, too.)

I will be surprised if CZ-USA wil give you credit for the shipping and handling cost... They did their part and shipped what you ordered.

[davekoch]

Quote:The 75 (IPSC) Standard was a predecessor to the new Tactical Sport.

 Before this conversation I'd never heard of a CZ-75 Standard. It sounded to me like they meant a "standard" CZ75, like a 75B or 75 pre-B.  And I didn't know they made a CZ-75 with a bigger frame (if it's a different frame why isn't it called a different model anyway? That's just confusing). I doubt many know about them except die hard CZ fans (we don't even have a forum for those models here do we?).

Quote:I wouldn't really expect to fit 17 rounds into a mag for a gun originally designed to hold a maximum of 12 (10, really) rounds. Where are those 5 or 7 extra rounds going to go?

Where do the extra rounds go in the 25 round 9mm  CZ75 mag? It's longer and sticks out the bottom. Right?

Quote:But, look on the bright side of it -- if that's the only mistake you make in messing with guns, it'll be a cheap learning experience and well worth the money.

True. I don't expect them to pay for my mistake and impatience. I'll just trade them back for some 9mm mags and get some Mec-Gar 12 round .40 mags somewhere else.

[Virginia Jake]

If you can not cancel your order.  If you can not return them.  I am interested in your 17 round, 40 S&W magazines that were made for the CZ 75 Tactical Sport.  

I have a 40 S&W Tactical Sport on layaway right now.  I will soon have it paid for and I will be needing two more 17 round magazines for it.

Yours,
Bob Troxell.

[Walt-Sherrill]

A solution!

[davekoch]

Hey Virginia Jake. Send me an email: davekoch at yahoo.com

[Walt-Sherrill]

Where do the extra rounds go in the 25 round 9mm CZ75 mag? It's longer and sticks out the bottom. Right?

Agreed.  They make a .40 version of that mag, too, I think.  They are both abominations -- horrible looking, and very impractical.  Heavy, when loaded, too.  That one probably holds about 17-18 riounds.  

[EZ CZ75]

Who cares about practical when you are talking about almost 20 rounds of 40?!!!   I just get a little giddy thinking about it.  I know the arguments on both sides of having more rounds, but I still think that more is better when it comes to just shooting at the range and the cool factor.

[Walt-Sherrill]

To me, being able to switch mags quickly is much more cool.   And its a skill you still need to develop.  

I don't like extended mags.

Generally, extended mags tend to be more troublesome, too.

[EZ CZ75]

Fast mag changes:  Cool!
Fast moon clip changes:  Even cooler!
I must admit that watching the open revolver shooters has to be one of the most amazing things I have seen in shooting.  They often out shot all of us with our hi-cap semi-autos.