Turned to the Dark Side I have

[mgardner]

Now you've done it! If you actually shoot the Black Tupperware Pistol you'll develop a chronic condition known as "Glock Knuckle".    Hope you're happy now! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlY_panxS_I

[JimThornTX]

Guess I better buy me some shooting gloves. 

[Birds Away]

My, what an ugly baby. 

[JimThornTX]

Jim,
I'm curious how the recoil of the Glock 23 compares to your P-06, when you get a chance, could you let us know?

Finally got a chance to shoot my Glock today, alongside my P-06. Ammo used was Remington UMC. Anybody that says the polymer frame of the Glock absorbs recoil is not telling the truth. I thought my P-06 had sharp recoil. The Glock is twice as bad. I don't like the recoil and neither does my 17 yr old son. Which is a shame because aside from the recoil I like the gun. Maybe I will sell or trade for a 9mm version.

On a side note, I really like my new Springfield XD 45acp. Recoil was surprisingly mild. Definitely less recoil than my Glock 40s&w. And it's a polymer gun as well.

[jabbermurph]

the recoil of the G23 is stronger than other .40 cal handguns I have shot, but I found it is quite manageable with a little practice.  The only thing I really don't like is the finger grooves in the grip.  I like the Gen 2s much more than the Gen 3s. 

Although, I haven't had a chance to shoot a Gen 4 with the biggest back strap w/ beavertail, which I think would make it much more comfortable, allowing a higher grip without fear of slide bite.

[jwc007]

Finally got a chance to shoot my Glock today, alongside my P-06. Ammo used was Remington UMC. Anybody that says the polymer frame of the Glock absorbs recoil is not telling the truth. I thought my P-06 had sharp recoil. The Glock is twice as bad. I don't like the recoil and neither does my 17 yr old son. Which is a shame because aside from the recoil I like the gun. Maybe I will sell or trade for a 9mm version.

On a side note, I really like my new Springfield XD 45acp. Recoil was surprisingly mild. Definitely less recoil than my Glock 40s&w. And it's a polymer gun as well.

Trade for a Glock 17 or 19, or a Springfield XD/XDM in 9mm, the latter which would be my choice. 

[Skookum]

Per Genitron.com, free recoil energies, in ft?lb, for the following .40 S&W pistols are:

- Glock 23 ? 10.1
- CZ 75 P-06 ? 7.4
- CZ 75 P-07 Duty ? 7.8.

[JimThornTX]

The only thing I really don't like is the finger grooves in the grip.

My wife and I actually like the finger grooves. Only complaints are the recoil and the rear sights. We both like three dot sights.

[JimThornTX]

Per Genitron.com, free recoil energies, in ft?lb, for the following .40 S&W pistols are:

- Glock 23 ? 10.1
- CZ 75 P-06 ? 7.4
- CZ 75 P-07 Duty ? 7.8.

Yes, definitely a big difference between the P-06 and G23.

On a side note, the Springfield XD40 (same as my XD45 but in 40s&w) is listed as 7.92 ft-lb. A little more than the P-06 but still a lot less than the G23. The XD45 is listed as 8.26 ft-lb.

[ParabellumJ]

So far my only real complaints are that I wish the Glock had the loaded chamber indicator and the "cocked, ready to fire" indicator that my Springfield XD-45 does. These two small additions might help prevent some of the infamous Negligent Discharges that Glocks are known for having.

IMO anyone that feels a need for a loaded chamber indicator or a striker status indicator needs a lesson in gun safety. And as far as a the ND's Glocks are supposedly known for, that falls on the shooter, never the gun. Firearms safety 101 should clear up any issues you have with your Glock

[JimThornTX]

IMO anyone that feels a need for a loaded chamber indicator or a striker status indicator needs a lesson in gun safety. And as far as a the ND's Glocks are supposedly known for, that falls on the shooter, never the gun. Firearms safety 101 should clear up any issues you have with your Glock.

IMO a newbie that knows absolutely nothing about the OP should think twice about posting condescending remarks. 

[jwc007]

Enough of that stuff!    Let's keep it civil. 

[Faeruss7]

     Glocks are solid firearms, congratulations on the new gun.

[ParabellumJ]

IMO a newbie that knows absolutely nothing about the OP should think twice about posting condescending remarks. 

Sorry, I was just stating my opinion on safety features that are unnecessary if the operator follows basic safety rules and disputing your claim Glocks are known for negligent discharge because they lack these features. Congrats on your purchase.

[Skookum]

I was just stating my opinion on safety features that are unnecessary if the operator follows basic safety rules and disputing your claim Glocks are known for negligent discharge because they lack these features.

I hope JT won't mind, as a curious scientist and statistician, if I ask:  What do you believe the reason(s) is(are) for Glocks having an elevated negligent discharge rate relative to other handguns?

I shall read your response without comment, as many know my opinion, despite my reluctance to express it.

Thanks.