SP01 Throwdown: Decocker vs Safety

[Yer]

I like my posts because not only do they answer my questions, but they spark conversations and expand knowledge here at CZ Forum.

(Lookin at the SP01, not the shadow because its a gift to me so I'm keeping price in mind on their part)

Big question: For a guy looking to upgrade his future competition pistol, should I go with the decocker or safety?

I've heard that DCs make the trigger rougher, making the DA shot harder.

But my padre is pretty confused by my preference towards the SP01 (because of the smoother trigger, if what I've heard of non-DCs is true)
"yeah the SP01, not the Tactical"
"But it has a safety....on a double action"
"But I've heard DCs make the trigger rougher, plus gunsmiths tend to charge more for trigger work done on DC models"
"but it has a safety......"

Tell me your preference from the competition standpoint and please explain why you think this would be better for competition.

I'm going to get to know the gun before deciding if I want any modifications, but if I'm going to compete I probably will unless I love the factory trigger set-up. Heck I might even buy it a dress

[velo918]

I sold my SP01 Tactical not too long ago and I have an SP01 Shadow.  The 2 don't compare.  If you are looking for both a duty/carry gun that you can also use for competition, I would go with the Tactical because it has the firing pin block on it.  The Shadow is pretty much for competition because of the lack of FP block and it is for this reason you can get a much more finely tuned trigger on the Shadow than the Tactical. 

[CV67Dad]

Manual safeties on a defensive handgun are just as unnecessary as a de-cocker is on a competition handgun. Of course that is just my opinion, and there will surely be plenty of people in the "cocked and locked" crowd that will disagree.

[bugboy]

Get the safety model, that way you have a choice of running in it SA or DA. With a decocker you only get DA. Choice is good.
I got an SP-01 Shadow (safety, not FPB) for games and a P-01 (decocker) for carry

[Armor Snail]

I agree.  Get the manual safety version. Then you have the choice.  I don't get why some people have a hard time manually de cocking a modern pistol equipped with a FPB.  If you are holding the hammer and release the trigger to reset, the gun will not fire if you slip. 
Folks act like it's this scary thing.  Crikey...its not a old SA revolver with no transfer bar lowering a solid pin on a live round. 

I've personally seen decockers fail and have an AD.  I'll trust my hand over some metal parts designed for insurance policies of police departments.
Practice at the range.  Its not that hard. 
OK.  Rant over

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[coolbox]

I agree.  Get the manual safety version. Then you have the choice.  I don't get why some people have a hard time manually de cocking a modern pistol equipped with a FPB.  If you are holding the hammer and release the trigger to reset, the gun will not fire if you slip. 
Folks act like it's this scary thing.  Crikey...its not a old SA revolver with no transfer bar lowering a solid pin on a live round. 

I've personally seen decockers fail and have an AD.  I'll trust my hand over some metal parts designed for insurance policies of police departments.
Practice at the range.  Its not that hard. 

^^What he said^^

I place my other thumb over the FP while decockiing my 75 B Compact and SP01 (safety, FPB). One has more options this way.

[larryflew]

plus another for safety.  If you use it in DA mode the safety is inactive and cannot be set to safe so it works like a true DA.

[Yer]

Can anyone confirm or deny the "Decocker makes the trigger stiffer" ?

[Stuart]

Can anyone confirm or deny the "Decocker makes the trigger stiffer" ?

It doesn't. Fresh from the factory safety or decocker are the same.

[schmeky]

Stuart is correct.  Out of the box makes no difference.  Either can be tuned to the same level.  Blindfolded, you could not tell which was which once professionally tuned.

[Matt O]

Stuart is correct.  Out of the box makes no difference.  Either can be tuned to the same level.  Blindfolded, you could not tell which was which once professionally tuned.

That's very good to hear - should make it less of a change to have one pistol for competition and the same pistol (but a decocker version) for carry.

[Yer]

Stuart is correct.  Out of the box makes no difference.  Either can be tuned to the same level.  Blindfolded, you could not tell which was which once professionally tuned.

That's very good to hear - should make it less of a change to have one pistol for competition and the same pistol (but a decocker version) for carry.

My Tactical will work for both, but it is very good to hear. When Stuart speaks, you listen.

[dioscuri3]

I dont find it hard or unsafe to decock a safety pistol manually and its not like I'm pointing it at my head or my dog when I decock it.

I find that decocker versions are at least 10 to 100 times harder to put back together after breaking down completely since you have to break down the ejector cage components to get the cage out or use a shorter dowel in the pin slot that keeps it all together to get it out in one piece. Either way it sucks.

I'll stick with the enclosed ejector cage safety version.

[Yer]

My padre convinced me to switch to the SP01 Tactical over the basic SP01. I've tested the 75BD and loved it which got me wanting a CZ for myself. I'll take the decocker over a safety: don't want to accidentally switch it on plus I can get a higher grip with a decocker model

[harkamus]

plus I can get a higher grip with a decocker model

You have to be careful with how much force you exert on the decocking lever if you ride it. This is one reason I went with a Shadow. I ride my safety pretty hard with my thumb to get a high grip. If I were to put the same force on a decocker by riding it, I'd be decocking the firearm.