single Action Carry

[mordakyblu]

Hello All,

I have CZ75BD Police. I was wondering if it is safe to carry it cocked as opposed to the preferred half cock position. Please let me know.

M

[Gfunk]

Fully cocked? And no safety?  Call me overly cautious but I wouldn't. Just for fear of a Barney Fife move


CZ 75b 9mm Omega
CZ 75b 40s&w
CZ 75bd PCR
EAA Witness 45acp

[Gfunk]

Sorry, I would go hammer down or half-cocked with a bd model

[Grendel]

You defeat the safety features built in to your weapon by carrying it cocked and unlocked

[jabbermurph]

Absolutely not.  A decocker makes it a DA/SA gun only.

[nalioth]

You defeat the safety features built in to your weapon by carrying it cocked and unlocked

Which safety features would those be?

The BD line does not have a manual safety to speak of (so it can't be carried "cocked and locked")

The automatic firing pin safety works whether the hammer's cocked or decocked (and at any position in between).

[Grendel]

You defeat the safety features built in to your weapon by carrying it cocked and unlocked

Which safety features would those be?

The BD line does not have a manual safety to speak of (so it can't be carried "cocked and locked")

No bleep, Sherlock

The automatic firing pin safety works whether the hammer's cocked or decocked (and at any position in between).

Well, for one, it defeats the whole point of having a heavier DA pull to minimize the chance of a ND. Are you actually advocating the carrying of a decocker pistol in a cocked state or just being argumentative?

[nalioth]

You defeat the safety features built in to your weapon by carrying it cocked and unlocked

Which safety features would those be?

The BD line does not have a manual safety to speak of (so it can't be carried "cocked and locked")

No bleep, Sherlock

The automatic firing pin safety works whether the hammer's cocked or decocked (and at any position in between).

Well, for one, it defeats the whole point of having a heavier DA pull to minimize the chance of a ND. Are you actually advocating the carrying of a decocker pistol in a cocked state or just being argumentative?

I've learned never to argue with forum mods.

Forgive me for trying to understand what you were saying.

[Grendel]

Forgive me for trying to understand what you were saying.

Fair play, I went off a bit half cocked there .

My point is, the BD is not designed or intended to be carried cocked and unlocked. If it is so carried, then at least one of the safety features is defeated, namely the DA pull weight and length. If the OP wants to carry C&L, a far better and safer option is a pistol designed to be carried that way and therefore fitted with a safety.

[1SOW]

The 75B can be carried at any hammer position BECAUSE it has a safety that can be placed ON when the hammer is fully cocked.

If the 75B OR  BD OR 1911 .45ACP  are carried with thehammer fully cocked with NO safety ,  they are UNSAFE.  If they get "bumped"or  drawn from the holster just wrong,  they could put a nice round hole in whatever part of your  or sombody else's body the bbl is pointing at.

No hammered pistol made should be carried fully cocked without a safety in the ON position.

[nalioth]

The 75B can be carried at any hammer position BECAUSE it has a safety that can be placed ON when the hammer is fully cocked.

If the 75B OR  BD OR 1911 .45ACP  are carried with thehammer fully cocked with NO safety ,  they are UNSAFE.  If they get "bumped"or  drawn from the holster just wrong,  they could put a nice round hole in whatever part of your  or sombody else's body the bbl is pointing at.

No hammered pistol made should be carried fully cocked without a safety in the ON position.

The part above about the 1911 is wholly your opinion.

John Browning's large-caliber pistol designs had no manual safeties until the model of 1911, and the 1911 had a manual safety only because the Army requested one.

The Colt M1910 was "complete" (and safe) as far as JMB was concerned, but the Army requested a manual safety, which JMB gave them in the M1911 (the M1910 and M1911 are identical, save for the manual safety of the M1911)

Mr. Browning felt the grip safety on his pistols provided plenty of "safety" for those who couldn't figure out to keep their booger hooks under control.

[1SOW]

Touche'.  But then again, is the grip safety a "manual" safety? 

The BD doesn't have grip safety.