Why no customs jobs available for the CZ-83?

[NRA1945]

While looking over the CZ-USA custom site, I couldn't find a single thing pertaining to a custom job for a CZ-82/83 or even any parts available, other then wood grips. I've never seen one with a rounded combat style or any other type of hammer, and other then different grips, I haven't seen much done in the way of upgrades or customization. The only one who seems to be doing anything interesting is Winslow Customs, with their beautiful albeit expensive CZ-82 jobs.

One would think that as long as this gun has been on the market, with their availability and cheaper price, one would see more in the way of aftermarket or pre-market custom jobs. Is it because of an inherent  prejudice against carrying a .380 or 9x18 Mak? Is it because no one wants to bother sinking any money in these inexpensive guns? Is it because the CZ-82/83 is mostly excellent just the way it is OOB? Your thoughts?

[baldhunter]

I guess it's perfect the way it is .

[Birds Away]

I think a lot of people who buy the CZ 82/83 do so because they are the best gun at that price point.  So I doubt there would be enough interest in dropping several hundred dollars in after market parts and service.  I know designing the after market parts and getting them produced in quantity is a major investment.  I doubt there would be enough people who want to "tune" a milsurp to make it profitable.  Just my thoughts, others may disagree. 

[XCRcarpenter]

Personally, I would not mind spending some money to make something this nice, nicer. The fact that it was cheap to begin with just opens the door to spend a little more making it nice, IMO.
   I have written Winslow to ask about having larger serrations cut into the slide of an 83. Nothing fancy, but something more like a modern pistol has. I hope that it will make it easier for the 'old lady' to rack the slide.

[Hurryin Hoosier]

I guess it's perfect the way it is .

Pretty much my thinking!   

[Skookum]

Winslow Customs customizes CZ 82s:  http://www.customwinslow.com/#/cz82.

[jameslovesjammie]

Is it because no one wants to bother sinking any money in these inexpensive guns?

I think this is your answer.  When you look at the 82, you are getting a used (yet reliable) milsurp handgun for sub $300.  When you stick $150 into it for a trigger job, the economy of the gun (for what it is) starts to go away.  You are almost as inexpensive as a new P07 at that point.  You could also get a S&W SD9 new for less than that AND have a warranty.

[il.bill]

I think baldhunter and Birds Away nailed the answer in the first two replies.

[XCRcarpenter]

After $200 for an 83, I feel as though I have a little left. I would be happy to have Winslow do some work.



I do find the slide a little hard to grip, and although in general I find this pistol to be perfect for women shooters, I have found that many have a hard time racking the slide, esp. if they don't cock the hammer first. That and ammo cost are the only two drawbacks for me

[2huge]

Those Winslow guns are gobsmacking gorgeous guns! Just as soon as I win the lottery, I won't want one anymore because I will be able to buy all of those Dan Wesson toys that I drool over, and that really cool NAA Ranger that sells for 1500 bucks, or that.........   I don't get it either. I love the CZ-83, and if I sold all of them I could buy one of those DW guns or one winslow. I'll stick with my '83 collection for now. I just bought some extra's so I can try some bubba winslow work in my shop. I have my mill, and my lathe, and 5 '83's. It's a start.

[CPTKILLER]

http://www.cajungunworks.com/cz_pistol_upgrade_services.html

This guy in Louisiana has a good reputation for CZ's.

However the cost versus benefit could be an issue.

http://www.cajungunworks.com/cz_pistol_upgrade_services.html

[Birds Away]

http://www.cajungunworks.com/cz_pistol_upgrade_services.html

This guy in Louisiana has a good reputation for CZ's.

However the cost versus benefit could be an issue.

http://www.cajungunworks.com/cz_pistol_upgrade_services.html

Yes, I've heard of him.  He does indeed do excellent work.  But I don't think he works on 82s or 83s.

[cybervee]

I just bought some extra's so I can try some bubba winslow work in my shop. I have my mill, and my lathe, and 5 '83's. It's a start.

Five 83s? I only have three. I guess I have some 'buyin' to do' 

[AITG]

Before I get flamed, I have an 83. I like it and I'm keeping it.

That said, the 83 makes sense in countries where civilians can't own military caliber weapons. In the US, its a heavier gun than a 75D PCR, it holds less ammo, the 380 round has marginal performance for self defense. It isn't any more accurate than the 75, the recoil isn't significantly less, the ammo is more expensive, holsters are harder to find, etc.

In other words, why? Like it for what it is and save your money for a better gun.

[Skookum]

That said, the 83 makes sense in countries where civilians can't own military caliber weapons.

If it can work in those countries, it will work in this country.  Bad guys in both locations are of the same species.

the recoil isn't significantly less

Free recoil energies per Genitron.com:

CZ 83 ? 2.27 ft?lb
CZ 75 D PCR ? 4.97 ft?lb.

A 54% reduction is insignificant?

Why the 83?  An effective piece of history that, two years ago, had a MSRP $130 less than that of the PCR, and is not crippled with a decocker.