CZ-P09 IDPA SSP Legal?

[GRB5111]

Anyone know for sure whether it fits in the box? I'm shooting steel currently and have been looking at a large polymer (M&P Pro 5") option, but having a CZ preference, I've now added the P-09 as a primary consideration. Knowing it's very new, has anyone shot it in IDPA? Dimensions are very close to SP-01, so I'm assuming it's good to go, but would like a confirmation. Any feedback from one with P-09 IDPA experience is appreciated.

[Stuart]

It fits our IDPA box.

[GRB5111]

Thanks, Stuart. I figured it would, but wanted to be sure before I placed an order.

[damon1976]

if you are using decocker its ssp.  if you are using safety and manually lower the hammer it is ssp.  if you use safety cocked and locked it is esp

[GRB5111]

if you are using decocker its ssp.  if you are using safety and manually lower the hammer it is ssp.  if you use safety cocked and locked it is esp

And that's the beauty of this pistol. It gives you options, and you have the choice to compete in ESP with the other SA pistols by simply switching to the safety. With a P-01 as my carry gun, the decocker on the P-09 gives me the consistency in competition with the action I'm using in carry. The P-09's capacity and rail make it ideal for HD as well.

[jwo483]

The P-09 safety would be problematic for speed in ESP.

[Denzien]

The P-09 safety would be problematic for speed in ESP.

It is

[damon1976]

honestly no its not.  it is actually a little faster than the DA pull.  if you practice it enough you can hit it as soon as you are breaking the holster.  i plan to shoot it both ways.  looking to master or expert in both classes this year.

[damon1976]

And for the record I am 3 weeks in using this gun 2-3 matches a week for IDPA.  I am coming from a PPQ, which i still absolutely adore.  I am not nearly as fast, and even after i get all CGW parts in there i doubt i will ever be given the trigger on the PPQ.  but what i am is amazingly more accurate.  the very first time i shot the gun was a few hours later that night at a match after i got it.  that was officially the cleanest match, 2 down, i have shot in the 5 or so years i have been shooting IDPA.  last night at the match 3 different times i took extra shots on target because i thought i had missed.  going up to score i saw that i same holed it so tight it looked like 1 hole at a distance.  i am a network engineer by trade and a techie at heart.  so everything for me is about NEW technology.  i literally had 0 interest in hammer fired guns.  soon i will be getting a tan p09 with threaded barrel and a p01

[Denzien]

Well, it is for me.  I find it's just a tad difficult to get a purchase on the lever when my adrenaline is going.  I found that the DA first pull took long enough that I could settle myself before the first shot goes off.

If I was a more experienced, probably none of this would be an issue.

[reshp1]

The stiff safety should be a fairly easy fix. The detent is tucked in the left side lever, it's just a flat piece of sheet metal with a spring behind it. A weaker spring or filing down the "nub" of the detent slightly would both make the safety softer feeling.

[damon1976]

The stiff safety should be a fairly easy fix. The detent is tucked in the left side lever, it's just a flat piece of sheet metal with a spring behind it. A weaker spring or filing down the "nub" of the detent slightly would both make the safety softer feeling.

wait your safety is stiff.  mine is so lose i dont even like using it.

[reshp1]

wait your safety is stiff.  mine is so lose i dont even like using it.

Are you sure your detent didn't fall out? When it's out of the gun, there's not much holding in place. Once installed, it relies on the frame to capture it (it rides in the groove next to the hole in the frame for the safety/decocker.

[jwo483]

My P-09 with CGW sights in the IDPA box used for the Indiana State Match



On the ESP issue. After many trials on the timer I find no time advantage first shot condition one versus hammer down. I shoot hammer down for consistency SSP to ESP. If I was going to use the safety, I'd use my Shadow with the big, comfortable, easy to hit SA safety.

[damon1976]

wait your safety is stiff.  mine is so lose i dont even like using it.

Are you sure your detent didn't fall out? When it's out of the gun, there's not much holding in place. Once installed, it relies on the frame to capture it (it rides in the groove next to the hole in the frame for the safety/decocker.

I will call them on Monday and see about getting a new one.  I thought something was off