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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2014, 10:13:53 AM »
Honest review.  From what I've read so far, I'm pretty disappointed with the performance of this firearm.  I don't think it's the design that is the problem.  I think it's Big Green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTzS4sQfn4U

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2014, 11:06:44 AM »
Wow, just wow; I would be very nervous shooting that gun after all that...

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2014, 03:43:25 PM »
Unbelievable. Very sorry to hear this.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2014, 06:54:03 AM »
I can't believe I watched the whole thing!
 
Oh well, on to the next item on my want list.
 
 
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2014, 02:03:58 PM »
Honest review.  From what I've read so far, I'm pretty disappointed with the performance of this firearm.  I don't think it's the design that is the problem.  I think it's Big Green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTzS4sQfn4U

Remington sent me a UPS Next Day Air Return label and Packaging that I sent out yesterday.
My R-51 fired 50 rds and had the stiffness , rear sight and hard to engage grip safety problems mentioned in the video.  Mine ALSO had a serious trigger Pull problem associated with the large play also mentioned in this video. 

Seeing the video does NOT insprire any confidence that Remington will resolve the issues with my  pistol.



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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2014, 02:55:37 PM »
Remington sent me a UPS Next Day Air Return label and Packaging that I sent out yesterday.
My R-51 fired 50 rds and had the stiffness , rear sight and hard to engage grip safety problems mentioned in the video.  Mine ALSO had a serious trigger Pull problem associated with the large play also mentioned in this video. 

Seeing the video does NOT insprire any confidence that Remington will resolve the issues with my  pistol.

I'm sure Remington will take care of you, if not they may be able to give you a refund.

It doesn't seem like that is the only video of people having problems with the gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ZM3KeHiGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEAr9TJ51M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TSZmkJMBBk



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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2014, 03:11:50 PM »
To quote "Oddball": 
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2014, 03:15:22 PM »
I have read threads of two,  maybe it was one (?),  that actually worked as advertised.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2014, 03:55:17 PM »
To quote "Oddball": 
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i don't need any negative vibes man!"
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Sorry for being "Moriarty!"


Well, since I've been posting so many videos links...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2014, 07:54:44 PM »
To quote "Oddball": 
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i don't need any negative vibes man!"
   ;D ;D

Sorry for being "Moriarty!"


Well, since I've been posting so many videos links...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ
Great scene James  ;D
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2014, 11:21:26 PM »
I can hear Hank Junior singing while the 75mm blasts away...
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2014, 06:11:57 PM »
I had one of these in the shop the other day ,saying I was not impressed is putting it very mildly . The trigger system in my opinion just plain sucks, ergos not bad -how hard it is to rack -ridiculous! for $400 you could get a much better handgun initially I was interested in one of these,but not after handling it. I will stick to a Cz or related clone compact that hold more ammo.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #72 on: April 26, 2014, 12:16:31 AM »
Brian,  sure can't argue about your opinion based of the manufacturing screw-ups,   to say the least;  BUT  suppose the slide was easy to rack,  the trigger was smooth and centered and the grip safety worked as smoothly as a decent 1911.  The ergos, and simplicity of the pistol is really very very good.  It DOES shoot well in spite of the factory screw-ups.

I'm SURE no gunsmith,  but all the problems LOOK fixable.   Most look fixable  using stones, carborundum paper, dremel polishing and some patience.  It does need a real trigger and pin that fits the pistol.  It does need less friction/spring resistance engaging the grip safety.  The moving locking block need smothing, dehorning and polishing.
The sight issues are stupid simple to fix.  AS cut,  Best in my opinion would be Two bored and threaded holes + hex screws on the already dead flat surface of the rear sight = good-to-go.   The stamped out sear needs to be at least smoothed/polished,  but best replaced with a machined part.

The FACT that there are ZERO spare parts or even mags available is beyond belief.

I actually want this pistol to run.  I would even be willing to PAY for a real custom trigger if they would fix all the rest of the issues.  I guess that makes me stupid,  but if this pistol actually ran "as advertised" it would be a pleasure to own and shoot.

I acted as an RO today at a match,  where two guys used subcompact 9mms with 6 rd and 7rd mags.  They BOTH malfunctioned and were very hard to clear at least twice during a 50 rd match.  When they shot,  neither could hit crap with these pistols.  Even with all the issues, I could easily shoot decent groups at 10 yards using hot OR light loads with the R51.  The design makes it very "shootable".   The hardware sucks,  but is fixable---I hope. :(

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #73 on: April 26, 2014, 07:54:33 AM »
ISOW I actually liked the design I just was not impressed with the actual handgun. It is a nice very ergonomic handgun, many of the reviewers {Not Remington} touted it as having a 1911 style and feel in the trigger which is no where near the case. Fortunately I am the skeptical type as much as I wanted to just buy one I did not I waited until one of my customers bought one and then carefully examined it. I am not impressed for a MSRP of $419.00 . The slide racking issue will mainly effect female and older male shooters who do no have the strength to manipulate that slide.
   For me and that's just me I would not waste my money on this particular pistol. This design needs some serious refinement. I think they rushed this to the market place before really wringing this pistol out just to make a buck. This happens with a lot of the firearms manufacturers not just Remington. Now their R1 1911 series is a whole different story ,their base guns are dam good for the money.
   I must also state that I am biased against all single stack handguns and 5 to eight shot revolvers - plain and simple 5 to 8 rounds is not enough capacity for an actual encounter and it may be over before you get to reload. My experience is based on an actual encounter that I had 2 and 1/2 years ago with three jackass's not one.  I was a single stack carry guy ,but no more after that day. It happened extremely fast fortunately turned out well for me. My pistol had six shots in it and if they pressed the incident because they were close I probably would not have got them without a reload,they may have got me and killed me with my own pistol. It started and was over in 10 to 15 seconds ,but it seemed like forever till they backed down and fled.I sold all my single stack handguns after that day. The smallest that I carry now is my Sar B6 poly with 13 rounds mag capacity and the 14 th in the chamber with two spare mags. I went 9mm so I could increase mag capacity.
   For me a carry pistol must now meet different standards higher mag capacity, easy to use , combat accuracy, and ergonomic and most important absolutely reliable -must go bang at all times. I simply will not stake my life on a single stack design so I am biased on small capacity handguns.  If it was the only gun I had I would have to make due til I got something better. For me this would be a back gun period to my main carry gun.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #74 on: April 26, 2014, 05:07:14 PM »
I definitely understand your position. 
I have my SIG which I have 100% confidence in as my primary carry.  This little pistol would have suited my preferences in the summer and to ploay "gun games" with.  Oh well,  win most, loose some.  Maybe a miracle will happen from Remington.  I'm an optimist.  I'm an optimist. I'm an optimist.  :-\  ;)