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Offline icura

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2014, 07:01:53 PM »
found some nice articles about the R51 today...the reassembly seems very easy to screw up (1/16" is the difference between a failure mid-string) and the kicker: a function-check won't alarm you to an improper reassembly.

read more:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/gun-review-remington-r51/

size comparison article:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/remington-r51-comparison/

I'd be interested to see if anyone else writes about this.  If anyone here picks one up, please let us know your thoughts...

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2014, 08:13:15 PM »
Admittedly disappointing.
Still hopeful, Rem. will iron out any reassembly reliability issue.  If this characteristic "comes to light" sooner rather than later,  it'll get addressed sooner.

I'm one of the "it's gotta be metal" guys who wants ANY pistol to be able to reach out and touch someone at moderate distances,  not just 7yds or less.
My choice now is a very reliable Sig 239.  The R-51 was a smaller, but still comparable option with a better trigger---I had hoped.
Still to be determined.



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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2014, 09:20:45 PM »
Admittedly disappointing.
Still hopeful,
Still to be determined.

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Offline UncleBuck

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 09:43:07 PM »
What....one whinny review out of how many?  Don't tell me he hurt his wittle hand....ahhhhhh.  As for reassembly, heck, pay attention.  But having said that, there will still be some that will hurt their wittle hands as well as those that will flub up the reassembly.

Personally, I like the looks of the R51 and all the other reviews I've read were positive.  And NONE of those men complained about any pain in their hands, even after hundreds of rounds.

I've got one ordered.

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2014, 12:38:23 AM »
If anyone here picks one up, please let us know your thoughts...
I did and handled the R51 extensively last week. See Replies #4 and #7 earlier in this thread. I have nothing but positive things to say after racking the slide and dry firing this gun. I could, in fact, easily detect the reset. That and 90 cents will get you a cup of coffee, however, as none of those actions gives a realistic impression of the pistol's ultimate performance, handling and overall reliability and quality. I'm not inclined to put much weight in a single magazine review when the pistol has yet to be released. Like any newly released firearm, it bears watching and hearing from a number of people who've had a chance to wring it out under a variety of conditions.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2014, 02:00:21 AM »
I feel the same way,  but am interested in hearing about the validity of the reassembly comments after field stripping it.

I can manage a MKII and a Sig 2022,  so I doubt any BIG problem,  but don't like the idea it "may" not let you know if you screw up.
Watching with interest.  I need confidence in the pistol.

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Offline icura

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2014, 05:42:47 PM »
Like any newly released firearm, it bears watching and hearing from a number of people who've had a chance to wring it out under a variety of conditions.

+1 

I'd trust reviews from actual owners who spent their own money and put it in use through a variety of conditions too.  Reports from actual users/owners I'd take any day of the week over magazine or blog reviews. 

Magazines are too cozy with manufacturers (ad revenue) and bloggers are trying to draw more page views/clicks (again, ad revenue)...

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2014, 08:19:51 PM »
I checked at the nearby military BX gun store today.  He said they can backorder only when their "supplier" has them in stock.  He was very familiar with the R-51---seems others have shown interest.  He doesn't know what the price will be.
If they are $420 (OR LESS) with no tax, no shipping,  that would be good OTD.

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2014, 12:06:12 AM »
You CAN "Backorder" one NOW from KYGun for "less" than $400.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2014, 12:29:33 AM »
You CAN "Backorder" one NOW from KYGun for "less" than $400.
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http://www.kygunco.com/remington-r51-9mmp-semi-auto-handgun-71847

That is probably as good a price as we are likely to see for a while. I only wish the timing was better, between CGW upgrades on my polished and the .40 75B I have on layaway I'm stretched too thin as it is else I'd be all over that. Hopefully that price won't change much for a while.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2014, 12:40:40 AM »
ARA "March" digital Rifleman magazine came out today,  and zero mention of the R-51.   ???

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2014, 12:15:31 AM »
After watching the recall of the Shield and Xds.. I think I will wait at least a year or so before I commit to buying one..  :o

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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2014, 06:36:00 PM »
Found one at my LGS today priced at $419 + tax. It looked nice, felt clunky and loose with lots of rattle. If I didn't know the barrel was fixed (it is right?) I would have sworn it moved. Didn't seem to point very naturally for me either. I was really underwhelmed with it.

On the other hand, I had just left CZ Custom after checking out the Valor & V-Bob and honestly any standard production gun would have seemed a bit shoddy after that.
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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2014, 06:40:11 PM »
I too found one today at a Boise LGS.  The price was $419.

My initial thoughts (from handling only) were:
-  gun was bigger than I thought
-  trigger had no feel to the reset


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Re: Anyone buy a Remington R51 yesterday?
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2014, 04:50:55 PM »
Re the thread title: " NOPE,  I bought it today".

I shot a match this morning and on the way out through the shop,  I found they had just recieved a Remington R-51.  I had asked about it previously,  and the lady who works there (also shoots USPSA) said "I'll go get the paperwork".  I said I wanted to just  Look, touchy feely and think this over a bit first---she smiled.

Any way,  I tried the trigger etc etc.  The slide cycling felt a little harsh until I realized it's different than a tilt bbl pistol.  It wasn't hard to cycle,  but had three distinct stages in the pull---like you were pulling it over "humps'.  Exterior finish was smooth and even.  and what I could see of the internals looked like it was plastered with a mixture of thin white grease and nasty used oil.   I thought about it and a few friends jabbed at me a little.  I bought it and walked away with my new 1918 pistol action Remington.  :o

At home, Ifollowed the instructions for the field strip.  IT WAS NOT INTUITIVE to this old guy,  but I finally "sort of" realized what was needed and got it apart.  Everything inside was painted/caked with nasty lubes.  1/2 can of a spray brake cleaner later,  I got a good look at most of the internals.  The bbl is stainless and very smooth but not polished to a high shine.  The frame/rails are A/C aluminum and waay smoother than the typical CZ---like cnc work.  The locking block/firing pin and extractor housing  (all one assembly)  was the roughest part,  but not bad at all---no voids or surface irregularities.

I  relubed the parts liberally generally following Remingtons suggestions (Spray it all down with Rem-oil).  I used Militec 1 in and on the bbl where the recoil spring rides and Mobil 1 everywhere else.   The recoil spring has a 1" +/- metal cap on the moveable end with a good bit of compression force.  I will be using some good light grease on the aluminum rails. 
Reassembly involved a reversal of the takedown procedures "mostly" and wasn't bad.  I "think" the next field strip will go about as fast as my CZs.
I know they will after two or three more practices.  No tools were required to field strip.

I did experience one of the complaints that have been published.  If you install the slide lock (essentilly the same as a CZ 75)  with the wrong marking lined up,  the gun goes back together and functions, BUT the slide locks back after EVERY slide cycle.   The slide release also felt "stiffer/harder" to depress.  I re-did the slide release install using the correct frame mark and all was well again.

I can see how big hands could be pinched by the slide travel.  MAN,  this pistol has a low bore axis.  With a firm into-the-beavertail high grip,  the slide is travelling "just" above the web of your hand--literally.  I like it.

Haven't shot it yet.  WILL do tomorrow or Tuesday,  and report what I experience.
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