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Offline CitizenPete

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #75 on: August 03, 2015, 09:34:16 PM »
I bought one from classicfirearms last week and received a rifle with a receiver marked paragon mfg inc.

The disconnector is not modified and the bolt carrier  has been rounded off on the disconnector side.

http://imgur.com/a/eWmpT

I experienced the gremlin today firing it for the 2nd time. Hopefully forcedmarch fabrication can fix it up for me.


That rounded carrier is interesting, and it must be rare.  Do you know the history behind that?  Seems like it would help perpetuate the gremlin, no?

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2015, 03:30:20 PM »
Weird and possibly dangerous modification there... 

Essentially, that part trips the disconnector bulge to release the sear up, grabbing the striker...  Without it working properly, the disconnector wouldn't be tripped allowing the carrier to continue forward... 

There shouldn't be an out of battery risk here, but there's absolutely a runaway slam fire full auto risk here (with the wrong/right ammo) if the carrier isn't tripping the disconnector...

I don't know why they wouldn't modify the disconnector vs the carrier...
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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2016, 06:39:16 PM »
Update:

OOW: 500

Dtechnic/CZ USA: Unknown

Ohio Rapid Fire: Unknown

CNC Warrior: Unknown, but usually they do receiver runs in relatively small quantities.  Guesstimate <500.

Century:
1st Gen, VZ0011XX (~1,100 Lowest serial number in this thread)
1st Gen, VZ053XX (~5,300 highest serial number in this thread)
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2nd Gen, VZ08 - 003xxBR (~300 highest serial number shared in this thread)
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3rd Gen, VZ08pm - 0014x (~100 Lowest serial number shared in this thread)
3rd Gen, VZ08PM - 01089x (~10,800 highest serial number shared in this thread)
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4th Gen,  VZ08-0016x PM
4th Gen (from Atlantic Firearms Listing), VZ08-0026x PM
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Custom Builds/Parts Kits: Unknown

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2017, 02:35:15 PM »
I just got a VZ2008 with a serial # VZ002XX. It seems to fall outside any of the above ranges. There was a slip in the box with a date of 11/06/2008 on it. Any idea what gen and also if there's anything on it I should watch out for (Issues, barrel size, etc.)???
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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #79 on: November 19, 2017, 05:56:58 AM »
3rd gen - vz08pm-0134xx

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #80 on: November 29, 2017, 06:29:54 PM »
It is most likely a 1st gen, but my number is lower than what's listed in the above posts for a 1st gen.

Also, can anyone tell me who made the receiver on my 2008? It only has a small area milled out below the safety unlike most 2008's and 58's.
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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2019, 05:55:14 PM »
Vz08PM-0113xx
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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2019, 05:33:35 PM »
Update:

OOW: 500

Dtechnic/CZ USA: Unknown

Ohio Rapid Fire: Unknown

CNC Warrior: Unknown, but usually they do receiver runs in relatively small quantities.  Guesstimate <500.

Century:
1st Gen, VZ0011XX (~1,100 Lowest serial number in this thread)
1st Gen, VZ053XX (~5,300 highest serial number in this thread)
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2nd Gen, VZ08 - 003xxBR (~300 highest serial number shared in this thread)
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3rd Gen, VZ08pm - 0014x (~100 Lowest serial number shared in this thread)
3rd Gen, Vz08PM-0113xx  (~11,300 highest serial number shared in this thread)
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4th Gen,  VZ08-0016x PM
4th Gen (from Atlantic Firearms Listing), VZ08-0026x PM
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Custom Builds/Parts Kits: Unknown

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2019, 06:25:49 AM »
I picked up one of the CAI VZ2008s that Cabelas briefly put up for sale a few weeks ago. Mine is VZ08PM-0137xx, which seems to be a fair bit higher than the 3rd Gen highest posted here.

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2019, 09:49:36 PM »
I picked up one of the CAI VZ2008s that Cabelas briefly put up for sale a few weeks ago. Mine is VZ08PM-0137xx, which seems to be a fair bit higher than the 3rd Gen highest posted here.

Thanks for sharing!  If you don't mind me asking, what were they charging?  $600 was what they last had them at I think but didn't see the sale you're referencing.

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2019, 10:33:19 PM »
This is all just hearsay, but years ago I was told that the czech republic surplused 500k rifles for $10 each with a bayonet, mag pouch with 4 mags and sling each.  Century was rumored to have purchased 1/4 of them and thats where all the parts kits in country came from.
Many of the rifles were sold to militarys, Iraq certainly acquired quite a few.

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2019, 08:32:30 PM »
I picked up one of the CAI VZ2008s that Cabelas briefly put up for sale a few weeks ago. Mine is VZ08PM-0137xx, which seems to be a fair bit higher than the 3rd Gen highest posted here.

Thanks for sharing!  If you don't mind me asking, what were they charging?  $600 was what they last had them at I think but didn't see the sale you're referencing.

$599, at the end of August. I think they were in stock for only a few hours.

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Re: Number of VZ58s and variants imported into the US
« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2019, 12:23:38 AM »
$599, at the end of August. I think they were in stock for only a few hours.

At $599, you did good!

Were they the ones w/ the FAB Defense handguard and VFG (w/ Czech folding stocks), or were they beaver barf handguards?