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Offline DexterGSP

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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2014, 06:00:03 PM »
Just don't drop it on its muzzle with a loaded chamber.  I have a pre-70's Colt 1911 that I use for self defense too.  It was made in 1956 and it does not come with a a firing pin block and I still sleep well at night.   :D
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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2014, 06:11:01 PM »
It's not as drastic on the canik pistol as it is with a CZ as they use a different style FPB lifter system, no spring on the canik...

IF the Canik Pistols use the same Martin Tuma designed Firing Pin Block as do the Tanfoglio Pistols, where the trigger releases the Firing Pin Block, rather than push via the trigger, there should be no adverse effect on trigger pull from the Firing Pin Block. Hence, why bother with it at all.

The firing pin block lever on a Canik can/will effect the quality of the trigger pull.
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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2014, 06:44:21 PM »
It's not as drastic on the canik pistol as it is with a CZ as they use a different style FPB lifter system, no spring on the canik...

IF the Canik Pistols use the same Martin Tuma designed Firing Pin Block as do the Tanfoglio Pistols, where the trigger releases the Firing Pin Block, rather than push via the trigger, there should be no adverse effect on trigger pull from the Firing Pin Block. Hence, why bother with it at all.

The firing pin block lever on a Canik can/will effect the quality of the trigger pull.

Yes will deff affect trigger pull, I'm not sure how much it affects reset, I'd have to get out digital tools lol

On a CZ we know it affects trigger pull but drastically affects reset, that's the largest benifit..

I use my p120 up on my CZ's so I can't have a block on it

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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2014, 06:53:42 PM »
I'm not sure if I read that as a statement or a question lol, I'm not sure what the Martin tuma design is either but I'll look it up on google

Details of the Design: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5625971.html

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United States Patent 5625971
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The sear includes a first tang adapted to cooperate with the searing surface of the hammer. A second tang of the sear projects towards the firing pin. The firing pin has a sleeve like portion of an increased diameter defining an abutment surface. In the cocked position of the hammer the first tang of the sear contacts the searing surface of the hammer, and the end of the second tang is located in front of the abutment surface of the firing pin. Thus, when the gun is accidentally dropped, the firing pin cannot move for instance due to forces of intertia units own into the firing position striking unintentionally a loaded round.

Also, here: http://www.google.com.tr/patents/US8132496

The nice thing about this system is that it has very little or no effect on trigger pull weight.
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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2014, 11:28:26 PM »
I'm not sure if I read that as a statement or a question lol, I'm not sure what the Martin tuma design is either but I'll look it up on google

Details of the Design: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5625971.html

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United States Patent 5625971
Abstract:
The sear includes a first tang adapted to cooperate with the searing surface of the hammer. A second tang of the sear projects towards the firing pin. The firing pin has a sleeve like portion of an increased diameter defining an abutment surface. In the cocked position of the hammer the first tang of the sear contacts the searing surface of the hammer, and the end of the second tang is located in front of the abutment surface of the firing pin. Thus, when the gun is accidentally dropped, the firing pin cannot move for instance due to forces of intertia units own into the firing position striking unintentionally a loaded round.

Also, here: http://www.google.com.tr/patents/US8132496

The nice thing about this system is that it has very little or no effect on trigger pull weight.

Yes I get what ur sayin, I remember now when I changed the FP spring in my witness

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Re: Do I really need a firing pin block?
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2014, 01:13:47 AM »
How many rounds have you put down the pipe?  I would think that just shooting the gun would smooth out the trigger-pull, OTOH, I've only owned guns that have the block.