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Offline DSW22

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2014, 12:13:43 AM »
I'm grabbin' the B and the P-01 ? if I gotta ditch weight it's the B that gets left behind ? the extra mags come along.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2014, 01:17:18 AM »
Just got my CZ Compact.  Love it.  Love the "feel" of it much better than the P01.  It DOES in fact fit my short, chubby hand and fingers better, if for ANY reason, the trigger is much less pointy, which makes it easier to shoot.  It will be my daily carry gun. 

You should look at changing out your recurve trigger for another trigger.  Might change your mind on the P-01.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2014, 06:41:47 AM »
I would think they all have the same amount of reliability.
I also would not over think this since how much are you going to be shooting it.
I would worry more about having enough ammo on hand.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2014, 02:30:43 AM »
Had my P-01 out at the range yesterday (Friday), and I find it dependable and extremely accurate. It's completely stock and I've not messed with springs, hammer, or trigger, and this pistol shoots small groups at 25 yards consistently. It's light and easy to handle. I'd bet my life on it.

P-09 is a bedside table gun in addition to IDPA insurance. I feel comfortable with both Ps, but the lightness and the pleasure of shooting the P-01 means that I'm including it in my range bag every time I go for a target session.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2014, 08:53:32 AM »
+1 Fireman & others who said either should be reliable.   I guess if I had to pick one over the other for reliability (which was your original question) it would be the P-01.

I also second TX_Southpaw's recommendation on getting a 85c trigger on your P-01.  You will notice the difference I bet. 
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 11:38:36 AM »
I have a PCR as my primary EDC... and I am putting together plans now for an SP-01 Tactical that I will outfit with a Surefire X300 Ultra for home defense and bugout bag use. In a SHTF situation my thinking is to have one gun that is easy to conceal, and another with a light attached that I can carry under a coat or in a backpack.

My shotgun would serve my long gun needs because... that is the only long gun I have! :) If I get a rifle then it may trump the shotgun simply based on ammo capacity and quicker reloads... we'll see.
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 01:19:11 PM »
Any of the three would likely have the same or similar reliability. Take one and bring as many mags as you can. But, any day of the week, in a nuclear ice age zombie apocalypse societal breakdown, a rifle would be better. IMO. :)

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2014, 03:29:48 AM »
+1 Fireman & others who said either should be reliable.   I guess if I had to pick one over the other for reliability (which was your original question) it would be the P-01.

I also second TX_Southpaw's recommendation on getting a 85c trigger on your P-01.  You will notice the difference I bet.


I would absolutely love to!!!  But still a little confused on that issue, is this a do-it-yourself drop in kind of thing? Have done many trigger replacements on AR's, but not any work at all on the CZ other than cleaning. Can I just order this trigger and have it sent to me and do it on the kitchen table? Or is it gunsmith recommended?

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2014, 03:35:32 AM »
I have a PCR as my primary EDC... and I am putting together plans now for an SP-01 Tactical that I will outfit with a Surefire X300 Ultra for home defense and bugout bag use. In a SHTF situation my thinking is to have one gun that is easy to conceal, and another with a light attached that I can carry under a coat or in a backpack.

My shotgun would serve my long gun needs because... that is the only long gun I have! :) If I get a rifle then it may trump the shotgun simply based on ammo capacity and quicker reloads... we'll see.

I'd go with a Fenix PD32 flashlight. I love Fenix and have dozens of them. Doesn't get much brighter. Have the PD35 on all my AR's, but too big for handgun. Still, it's almost impossible to beat the  PD 32. To me, that is the all-time best Flashlight ever made in the world. For size versus output, just cannot be beat for $55!!!!
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2014, 06:27:00 AM »
I would absolutely love to!!!  But still a little confused on that issue, is this a do-it-yourself drop in kind of thing? Have done many trigger replacements on AR's, but not any work at all on the CZ other than cleaning. Can I just order this trigger and have it sent to me and do it on the kitchen table? Or is it gunsmith recommended?

You can do it if you look at some links that show step by step. As long as you get the sear cage in and out in one piece you're good to go. If not, be prepared to get frustrated for another 30 minutes.You must take your time and tell family members "no interruptions"
Also since this is your first time, take pictures with your phone since they will be close ups and you will see what it looks like before taking it apart so you have a reference to put it back together.
Call David and he will advise what you will need and give advise if you mess up.
While you"re at it replace the trigger return spring and the trigger pin. Once you replace the trigger pin with the CGW pin it will go back in and come out in the future with just as push.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=504172
http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/topic/12605/t/Tutorial-for-Trigger-amp-Return-Spring-Replacement.html#.U9YgUWK9KK1

I just installed the short reach and short reset systems in my PCR yesterday. I replaced the disconnector, firing pin block lifter and the trigger(85 Combat with the two screws) now the PCR is fully Cajunized like my 75BD and P-09. Later this week I will replace the original trigger in my P-01 with the Combat trigger  I took out of my PCR
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2014, 09:26:09 AM »
I'd go with a Fenix PD32 flashlight. I love Fenix and have dozens of them. Doesn't get much brighter. Have the PD35 on all my AR's, but too big for handgun. Still, it's almost impossible to beat the  PD 32. To me, that is the all-time best Flashlight ever made in the world. For size versus output, just cannot be beat for $55!!!!

Lately I've been partial to Powertac flashlights for carry - the E5 puts out a whopping 950 lumens in the same form factor as other slim CR123x2 lights! I have an older 700 lumen model on my shotgun in a rail mount with pressure switch.

For a handgun-mounted light I've been leaning to the X300 Ultra since it does 500 lumens and there are holsters available for the SP-01 with light attached. I've owned an X300 in the past and, aside from being outpaced by other light offerings in lumen output, it was super reliable ... and on 10mm pistols to boot! :)

As a flashlight-geek-in-training I'll definitely check out the PD32 - thanks for the tip.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2014, 11:14:08 AM »
AR-15 for 99% of whatever situations I come across.  For the other 1%, there won't be any difference between a full size or compact pistol utilizing the same magazines.

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2014, 01:57:07 PM »
Yeah I couldn't grab just one, it wouldn't make sense.
Of course if I did and it had to be a sidearm the Shadow would go along for the ride.
But why stop there, I'm taking all the handguns my friends and...
The CZ452 is a must for small game, we are talking about a SHTF situation so that includes birds on the ground
The S&W AR15 TS is flawless, light and accurate, good for the widest range of tasks and can easily take hogs, deer and the occasional zombie
Shot guns for game birds on the wing and make sure you have slugs on hand for serious big game
I have plenty of others but the above would have to come, the others could stay behind if need be and I'd be ok with that.

The biggest issue that always seems to be overlooked in every zombie movie is the weight of the ammo, that stuffs a bear to haul around.

P.S. I'm not worried about zombie's I have a good grasp on how the human body works, that s#!+ isn't going to happen, gangs roving the streets looking for blood, sex and goodies, yeah that happens right now, right here, way more so in the third world, imagine it on a country wide scale in the good old USA... bring the guns gentlemen, bring all the guns!
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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2014, 04:15:43 PM »
WHAT you bring is going to be determined by WHERE you are going and HOW you'll get there. :-\

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Re: OK. Serious question for those brave enough to answer :)
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2014, 05:59:59 PM »
I would have a hard time believing anyone who told me a model stamped NATO would somehow be less prone to breakage than another of the same make.  I could be wrong, but I suspect the models which are NATO approved are simply the models which were submitted to NATO for approval.  What I know is that most of the internal parts are identical among the CZ 75 variants.

And as far as parts availability goes...  I know we all love CZs, which is why we own CZs, but can anyone really argue parts for CZs are more available than say a Glock? or a 1911?  Besides, the S would have to hitting the fan for a really long time for me to wear out a barrel on all ten of my CZs!  O0