P-01...Yay or Nay?

[Cyanide]

Please feel free to post any relevant information and pictures if possible in your answers gang.

As of right now the only true CZ I currently have is the P-07 Duty, with a new '14 model on the way, in addition to a couple of clones (Witness PS, Sar K2P), and a wanna-be clone (Grand Power).

I shoot my P-07 Duty and Grand Power best, and like the story goes, the CZ bug has bitten me! I'm very happy with my 07, as it is the best overall feeling/handling/shooting pistol I have, but am seriously considering the P-01.

Key word there is P-01. I'm not interested in the PCR (no rail...better to have and not need it than need it and not have) nor the other smaller, steel frame variants or clones (weight...carried a heavy-azz M9 on a fully supported duty belt for a couple of years, don't wanna try that weight IWB).

Anyway, my question is, other than the perfect ergos I'm used to (only my Steyr points better than my 07), what kind of difference would I notice with the P-01 concerning it's trigger (both DA & SA), and is it's decocker as smooth as the one on my P-07?

The only stock trigger better than my Duty's Omega is the Grand Power (have side by side review elsewhere on here), so I am kind of spoiled in that regard. However, it does look like the P-01 decocker is located better for operation to someone like me with short thumbs, as I must ever so slightly shift my hand forward to pop it on my 07.

Have to add also that it looks like the 07 sights are bigger and easier to pick up just from pictures I am looking at online of the 01.

Love my CZ family (and it's quarter-cousin from next door lol)! Swore I'd never carry a hammer-fired pistol ever again; CZ changed all that!

[emoji106] Thanks!

[TX_Southpaw]

In my opinion, the two biggest downsides to the P01 are the physical trigger (not trigger pull), and the sights.  Luckily you can change both.  I'm not a fan of the recurve trigger, but it may suit you.  If you want to upgrade the sights to night sights or fiber optic CGW, CZC, or AA can do that, and in most cases you can send the slide vs the whole pistol saving on shipping.

I love my P-01, it's a good sized pistol.  It's very accurate, it fits your natural points of aim.  I like the weight of a metal framed pistol.  Like you said ergonomics are great.  The trigger pull will be a little heavier than your P-07, but it will smooth out after shooting.  I haven't had a problem with the decocker.

There are lots of people that are happy with the P-01 right out of the case.

[Towns]

I haven't shot a P-07, so can't directly compare.  I just googled photos of side-by-side photos and it does appear that the P-01's decocker rides a little further to the rear than the P-07's.   

I loved my P-01 right out of the box, but did change the main spring, sights etc. 

[biggulp]

I'm not a CZ guy, the CZ bug hasn't bitten me, in fact, I only own one CZ, and that's my P-01.

When I decided to switch to appendix carry, I wanted a hammer fired pistol to replace my Glock 19.  I researched all of the available options that met my criteria (rock solid reliability, similar in size to the 19, good ergonomics).  After looking at/handling/shooting the offerings from FN, Sig, HK, CZ, etc., the P-01 was the clear winner.  It's reliable, the same size as a G19, doesn't weigh a ton, and had the rail (I'm in the same boat as you.. don't use it now, but don't want to want it later).  Out of the box, the trigger was "meh" at best.. For $50ish, CGWs UltraLight S/D kit (extended firing pin, reduced power firing pin, firing pin block, and hammer springs) made it an excellent trigger for a carry gun.. A bunch more CGW parts just made it incredible. 

So with all of the being said, if you want a compact hammer fired carry gun, I don't think there's a better choice than the P-01. 

[TX_Southpaw]

I haven't shot a P-07, so can't directly compare.  I just googled photos of side-by-side photos and it does appear that the P-01's decocker rides a little further to the rear than the P-07's.   

I loved my P-01 right out of the box, but did change the main spring, sights etc.

I think his concern was placement and motion.

The P-07/P-09 the decocker is a reverse motion of the P-01.  The P-01 decocker is closer to your body (helping shorter thumbs) and the majority of the motion is closer to your body, where as the P-07 is further away.

Simply put the P-01 starts at the 3 o'clock position and decocks around 5 o'clock.  The P-07 starts at the 9 o'clock position and decocks around the 8 o'clock position.

[GRB5111]

I'm shooting my P-01 factory standard with no changes so far for just over a year. I've got well over 1500 rounds of a variety of ammo through it with no malfunctions, ever. While I don't have a P-07 I can compare it with, I do have a P-09.

As Towns points out, the natural POA is one of the most impressive features of the P-01. It's literally an extension of my hand. As mentioned, the trigger pull is still factory standard, and I have no complaints shooting in SA and DA. I most often shoot targets at 25 yards, and I'm equally proficient shooting tight groups in SA or DA. In comparison with the P-09, I like the decocker on the P-01 better, as it's easier access moving my thumb to the rear of the left side of the frame to push down to decock on the rear of the lever rather than reaching slightly more forward to the front of the decocking lever on the P-09. Both the P-01 and the P-09 are smooth when decocking, just a slight difference in reach and manipulation.

If I compare triggers on the P-01 and P-09, I don't notice a difference. The trigger on the P-01 has smoothed out nicely. I've had the P-09 since February of this year, and it's still factory issue. I prefer the DA on the P-01 slightly more. I'm assuming the P-09's trigger is similar to the 2014 version of the P-07 in this case. As for SA, I like the triggers on both models.

It's likely that I'll install the upgraded springs from CGW on my P-01 eventually, but really, it's such a nice shooter, I don't feel compelled to move on this quickly. I have been shooting well with the factory sights, but I will upgrade the P-01 and the P-09 to the CZC tactical rear and FO front sights at some point in the next few months. I have them on my CZ 75B and they make a big difference.

The only other observation I'd mention to you is that the form factors of the P-01 and the P-07 in terms of size and being compact pistols are similar. For a long time, I thought I was fine with the P-01 to satisfy my CZ compact needs, but after shooting the P-09 for a few months and reading the reviews of the upgraded P-07 for 2014 along with the incredibly reasonable pricing, it's likely I'll pick up a P-07 at some point in the future.

[emjei]

Yay.....

[Cyanide]

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far! Very good points on all accounts. Like I said, I absolutely love my P-07, but something draws me to the P-01 lol.

[TX_Southpaw]

Anyway, my question is, other than the perfect ergos I'm used to (only my Steyr points better than my 07), what kind of difference would I notice with the P-01 concerning it's trigger (both DA & SA), and is it's decocker as smooth as the one on my P-07?

The only stock trigger better than my Duty's Omega is the Grand Power (have side by side review elsewhere on here), so I am kind of spoiled in that regard. However, it does look like the P-01 decocker is located better for operation to someone like me with short thumbs, as I must ever so slightly shift my hand forward to pop it on my 07.

P-01 decocker in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqkYlKZaL4&feature=youtu.be

[Firemanjones]

Please feel free to post any relevant information and pictures if possible in your answers.
Have to add also that it looks like the 07 sights are bigger and easier to pick up just from pictures I am looking at online of the 01.
Love my CZ family (and it's quarter-cousin from next door lol)! Swore I'd never carry a hammer-fired pistol ever again; CZ changed all that!
[emoji106] Thanks!

Yay
That is all I have, hammer-fired pistols. The p-07 sights are better but I like the position of the decocker on the P-01 better.

[jdubya87]

I have owned the P07 and carried it. I like it. It is functional and practical for the price. Shoots and carries very well. I was used to the SP-01 style decocker, so there was that, but its a training issue. I would carry one. I wish there were heavy duty night sights available for it.

That said, I just picked up a P01. The ergonomics and aesthetics put it into a whole other class for me. I have owned a PCR and a compact L, and sold them, each for different reasons. The P01 is my new favorite pistol. I understand that I will probably throw a bunch of money at it to upgrade the trigger, but I'm ok with that. I don't know what it is about this pistol. Out of all my carry guns I've ever had, the P07, the Glock 36/19, the CZ 82, P83, 1911, etc. This one just fits.

[recoilguy]

I do not own a polymer CZ but I do own the P-01. It fits in my hand nicely and the controls are all in very convenient places and very easy to operate. It is a hard gun to find fault with..

RCG

[Cyanide]

Thanks for the video TX!

Awesome pic Firemanjones! Is there any way possible that you could please do several comparison shots for me with the P-01 and P-07 like how I did with my Grand Power and CZ; views of them back to back, nose to nose, top to top, side by side from the rear and the front? Figure that would be a good set of comparison pics not only for me, but for anybody else who might also have similar questions.

Have pretty much already decided that I will get one, just a matter of whether I want to put it on layaway now since I have the money available to do it or, hope for the best and save over the next month or two to buy one outright (pricing would all be about the same when all is said and done with transfer fee and whatnot). May just have to get rid of the Sar K2P and/or Tanfoglio Witness PS so that I can get my P-01 faster!

[biggulp]

Have pretty much already decided that I will get one, just a matter of whether I want to put it on layaway now since I have the money available to do it or, hope for the best and save over the next month or two to buy one outright (pricing would all be about the same when all is said and done with transfer fee and whatnot).

If you know you want one, you probably want to go ahead and put it on layaway.. If you've read up on the availability of some of the CZ pistols, you know that they come and go.  You'll see them on every site on the internet for like 3 or 4 months well below MSRP, then they'll dry up and used P-01s will go for more than new ones for 2 or 3 months.  Right now, we're in the "available everywhere" phase.  Not sure how long it'll last.

[recoilguy]

If you can put it on lay away go hold it you don't need a bunch of pictured to decide what you can see for yourself.
If you want it and can't afford it now put it on lay away.
Over thinking these things is a real problem sometime. The internet is
good for some thing but also it cause you to over think what you actually know.
Your opinion is all that matters and what the gun does in your hand is what should be the trigger for you to buy not what it looks like it might do.

Go get it you want it and you will be happy! Then think about which bullets to buy.

RCG